[Public-List] Fwd: on our Heads

[Peter Milley]

Hi Gord,
It's interesting to read the latest thread on the legislation applying to
the discharge of sewage from pleasure craft and holding tanks in Ontario and
elsewhere. Having enforced and prosecuted this legislation for the past 30
years this is a topic near and dear to my heart. Regulation 305 made
pursuant to the Environmental Protection Act is the piece of legislation
that requires total containment of sewage waste on pleasure craft in Ontario
waters. In a nutshell the provisions of this regulation require a
permanently affixed sewage system with a holding tank and no "incongruent"
plumbing such as a Y valve permitting an option for overboard discharge as
is permitted 10 miles off shore along the Atlantic in American waters. There
are set fines for first offences with Provincial Offence Notices (tickets)
and subsequent offences require a court appearance and the defendant is
subject to the full penalty provisions of the EPA for a second offence. This
could be a penalty of $100,000.00 and or imprisonment for 1 year at the
discretion of the trier of facts.
Peter Milley

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Subject: Re: [Public-List] Fwd: on our Heads

Don't know about the States but here in Canada a removeable head is
illeagle.  The powers that be realized that it would be too easy to dump the
product overboard.  A porta-poti - or more properly a 'self contained head'
has to have all the connections of a holding tank so that the only way to
empty it is at a proper pump out station.

Gord #426 Surprise


On 8/4/09 5:49 PM, "Laughing Gull" <laughing_gull at verizon.net> wrote:

> 
> 
> 
> 
> I have used a porta pottie - the big one available from West Marine. It
works
> much better than expected for day sails, and can hold our crew of 2 adults
and
> 3 kids for a weekend (just).
> 
> In general, the head compartment is kept cleaner as you are able to take
> everything out when disposing of the contents. The chemicals they have
make
> this unpleasant job, more bearable (not pleasant) than you might think it
> should be!
> 
> Townie wrote an article in the maintenance manual of you have that of how
to
> do the install. The big advantage is that within an hour or two of
spending
> $160 or so you can be sailing. You need to create a small base in the
place
> where the old head was to raise it up.
> 
> I have plans for a new holding tank, and once I have done that will get a
new
> head, but unitl then, I schedule trips where I can find a larger porta
pottie
> to dump my contents into.
> 
> ahh the things we sailing types talk about that are probably not talked
about
> elsewhere.
> 
> Jonathan
> 197
> 
> From: Gordon Laco <mainstay at csolve.net>
> To: Alberg 30 Public List -- open to all <public-list at lists.alberg30.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, August 4, 2009 10:18:01 AM
> Subject: Re: [Public-List] on our Heads
> 
> Hi Roger - 
> 
> Up here people get their boats confiscated for committing crimes such as
> your local motor boaters described to you...
> 
> My two cents worth is that the more substancial you make your head, the
> happier with it you (and your guests) will be.  A regular Lavac or Brydon
> head is an easy fit in the space between the bulkheads where Alberg
designed
> in the head.  I think use of a porta pottie or anything moveable will end
up
> being unsatisfactory.
> 
> Gord #426 Surprise
> Who does not miss the porta-pottie 426 was factory fitted with; the
current
> Brydon is wonderful.  Users can do their duty like adults, reading
magazines
> while making offerings in privacy and comfort...
> 
> 
> 
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