[Public-List] Fwd: on our Heads

[Gordon Laco]

Good work Peter - that is a battle worth fighting!

On 8/4/09 7:26 PM, "Peter Milley" <milleype at kingston.net> wrote:

> Hi Gord,
> It's interesting to read the latest thread on the legislation applying to
> the discharge of sewage from pleasure craft and holding tanks in Ontario and
> elsewhere. Having enforced and prosecuted this legislation for the past 30
> years this is a topic near and dear to my heart. Regulation 305 made
> pursuant to the Environmental Protection Act is the piece of legislation
> that requires total containment of sewage waste on pleasure craft in Ontario
> waters. In a nutshell the provisions of this regulation require a
> permanently affixed sewage system with a holding tank and no "incongruent"
> plumbing such as a Y valve permitting an option for overboard discharge as
> is permitted 10 miles off shore along the Atlantic in American waters. There
> are set fines for first offences with Provincial Offence Notices (tickets)
> and subsequent offences require a court appearance and the defendant is
> subject to the full penalty provisions of the EPA for a second offence. This
> could be a penalty of $100,000.00 and or imprisonment for 1 year at the
> discretion of the trier of facts.
> Peter Milley
> 
> -----Original Message-----
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> [mailto:public-list-bounces at lists.alberg30.org] On Behalf Of Gordon Laco
> Sent: August 4, 2009 6:07 PM
> To: Alberg 30 Public List -- open to all
> Subject: Re: [Public-List] Fwd: on our Heads
> 
> Don't know about the States but here in Canada a removeable head is
> illeagle.  The powers that be realized that it would be too easy to dump the
> product overboard.  A porta-poti - or more properly a 'self contained head'
> has to have all the connections of a holding tank so that the only way to
> empty it is at a proper pump out station.
> 
> Gord #426 Surprise
> 
> 
> On 8/4/09 5:49 PM, "Laughing Gull" <laughing_gull at verizon.net> wrote:
> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> I have used a porta pottie - the big one available from West Marine. It
> works
>> much better than expected for day sails, and can hold our crew of 2 adults
> and
>> 3 kids for a weekend (just).
>> 
>> In general, the head compartment is kept cleaner as you are able to take
>> everything out when disposing of the contents. The chemicals they have
> make
>> this unpleasant job, more bearable (not pleasant) than you might think it
>> should be!
>> 
>> Townie wrote an article in the maintenance manual of you have that of how
> to
>> do the install. The big advantage is that within an hour or two of
> spending
>> $160 or so you can be sailing. You need to create a small base in the
> place
>> where the old head was to raise it up.
>> 
>> I have plans for a new holding tank, and once I have done that will get a
> new
>> head, but unitl then, I schedule trips where I can find a larger porta
> pottie
>> to dump my contents into.
>> 
>> ahh the things we sailing types talk about that are probably not talked
> about
>> elsewhere.
>> 
>> Jonathan
>> 197
>> 
>> From: Gordon Laco <mainstay at csolve.net>
>> To: Alberg 30 Public List -- open to all <public-list at lists.alberg30.org>
>> Sent: Tuesday, August 4, 2009 10:18:01 AM
>> Subject: Re: [Public-List] on our Heads
>> 
>> Hi Roger - 
>> 
>> Up here people get their boats confiscated for committing crimes such as
>> your local motor boaters described to you...
>> 
>> My two cents worth is that the more substancial you make your head, the
>> happier with it you (and your guests) will be.  A regular Lavac or Brydon
>> head is an easy fit in the space between the bulkheads where Alberg
> designed
>> in the head.  I think use of a porta pottie or anything moveable will end
> up
>> being unsatisfactory.
>> 
>> Gord #426 Surprise
>> Who does not miss the porta-pottie 426 was factory fitted with; the
> current
>> Brydon is wonderful.  Users can do their duty like adults, reading
> magazines
>> while making offerings in privacy and comfort...
>> 
>> 
>> 
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