[Public-List] Wire reel winch -handy billy

[dan walker]

you're welcome

--- On Tue, 6/30/09, Gordon Laco <mainstay at csolve.net> wrote:

> From: Gordon Laco <mainstay at csolve.net>
> Subject: Re: [Public-List] Wire reel winch -handy billy
> To: "Alberg 30 Public List -- open to all" <public-list at lists.alberg30.org>
> Date: Tuesday, June 30, 2009, 10:12 AM
> I've been waiting for somebody to
> ask!
> 
> If you don't want to use a winch, what you do is make
> yourself a small 3:1
> or 4:1 tackle - the boom vang will do.  You haul up
> the main until it is up
> as far as hand tension will take it; then you take your
> tackle, which has
> hooks on the bales of the blocks and put one hook on a ring
> on the mast
> (bale for the vang will do) and put the other hook on a
> ring that you have
> cleverly worked into the halyard about three feet or so up
> the mast.
> 
> You pull on the tackle, that tensions the halyard. 
> Once the halyard is
> cleated off, you remove the handy billy and either stow it
> or turn it into a
> vang again.
> 
> Presto - no winch required; and how salty you will feel!
> 
> Gord #426 SURPRISE (now I am waiting to see if my halyard
> winch sales
> plummet...)
> 
> 
> On 6/30/09 9:56 AM, "dan walker" <dsailormon at yahoo.com>
> wrote:
> 
> > 
> > ok gord, educate me again, what's a handy billy/
> > dan
> > 
> > --- On Tue, 6/30/09, John Birch <Sunstone at cogeco.ca>
> wrote:
> > 
> >> From: John Birch <Sunstone at cogeco.ca>
> >> Subject: Re: [Public-List] Wire reel winch -
> information needed
> >> To: "Alberg 30 Public List -- open to all" <public-list at lists.alberg30.org>
> >> Date: Tuesday, June 30, 2009, 9:28 AM
> >> The Technical Committee Report in
> >> "The Desirable & Undesirable
> >> Characteristics of Offshore Yachts" published post
> the
> >> Fastnet Disaster
> >> (1979) to wide acclaim concurs with my post pasted
> below,
> >> as does Gord Laco
> >> 
> >> -------------------------------------
> >> 
> >> My advice, take it off, polish it and put it over
> the
> >> fireplace as a
> >> mantle piece
> >> 
> >> Had one on Sunstone, brake slipped and broke my
> wife's
> >> glasses when reefing.
> >> Lucky for her, it could have been much more
> serious. I have
> >> heard of jaws,
> >> wrists etc broken when the clutch fails and the
> winch
> >> handle free spins.
> >> 
> >> Replace it with a regular winch, much safer.
> >> 
> >> Best
> >> 
> >> John
> >> 
> >> -----------------------------------------
> >> 
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: <mahseer at kos.net>
> >> To: "Alberg 30 Public List -- open to all" <public-list at lists.alberg30.org>
> >> Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 9:22 AM
> >> Subject: Re: [Public-List] Wire reel winch -
> information
> >> needed
> >> 
> >> 
> >> I have 3 wire reel winches on Mahseer. Each one
> is
> >> different on how the
> >> wire is attached, the one I use for my main
> outhaul has two
> >> grub screws
> >> visable on top of the winch, the second one used
> for my
> >> main halyard has
> >> the screws below the top plate.  This is accessed
> by
> >> removing the circular
> >> spring in the centre and removing the plate. 
> The
> >> locking mechanism is a
> >> clamp arround the base of the winch, do not oil or
> grease
> >> this part or it
> >> will slip.  The third winch that I use for my
> headsail
> >> furling has the
> >> screws accesable from the top.  I have had these
> since
> >> I bought the boat
> >> and do not intend to replace them.  they make
> the
> >> cockpit tidy with no
> >> lines to store when used.  As to the safty of
> these my
> >> winches have not
> >> slipped nor do I keep a winch handle in the top
> unless I
> >> intend to use it.
> >>  When reefing I keep my hand on the winch at
> all times thus
> >> eliminating
> >> any chance of a runaway handle.
> >> 
> >>   The arguments put forward about broken arms etc
> is
> >> like saying you
> >> should not have a gas engine or propane on board
> because it
> >> might
> >> explode, yes this could happen if you do not
> follow basic
> >> safety
> >> precausions.
> >> 
> >> john Boor
> >> MAHSEER #380
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >>> 
> >>> For the time being, I use the original type of
> wire
> >> reel winch for my
> >>> mainsail halyard.
> >>> 
> >>> I have read the threads this site which deal
> with
> >> safety concerns.
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> Might anyone have a manual on this winch?
> >>> 
> >>> In particular, I am interested in:
> >>> 
> >>> 1) how the wire is attached to the drum (So I
> can
> >> remove it briefly and
> >>> re-attach, for a reason I would rather not
> share!)
> >>> 
> >>> 2) how to service/lube it (So I can care for
> it.)
> >>> 
> >>> 3) how the clutch mechanism works (So I have
> some kind
> >> og mental picture)
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> Thanks in advance for any assistance.
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> David Tessier
> >>> 
> >>> A30#319, Trois Bouleaux, Lion's Head, Georgian
> Bay
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> P.s.: Had an enjoyable short cruise last week
> - 16
> >> hours with little to no
> >>> wind sailing through one night up towards
> Lonely
> >> Island and followed by
> >>> two days lively sail for the return anchoring
> at Club
> >> Island and Wingfield
> >>> Basin on the return trip to Lion's Head.
> >>> 
> >>> P.p.s.: Sure made a mistake bringing along my
> stay
> >> sail instead of my
> >>> large drifter.
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>
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