[Public-List] So Cal A-30 casting call

Wed Jun 24 08:29:49 PDT 2009

Thanks Roger.  What a distressing story - and how fortunate that you were
able to attend.

I found the flurry of that sort of thing that surrounded me after M&C nearly
unbearable.  I have a thicker skin now; and perhaps am more ready to sue
than I was before!

G

On 6/24/09 11:22 AM, "Roger L. Kingsland" <r.kingsland at ksba.com> wrote:

> Gord,
> 
> I have the dubious distinction of being a recognized expert in the design of
> high tech office space such as customer service centers and have spoken on
> the subject at several industry conferences.  I applied to speak at one of
> the bigger call center conferences and was turned down but later noticed the
> seminar I proposed was described in the conference program exactly as I had
> written in my application, even the title.
> 
> I attended the seminar.  It was presented by a young woman from a call
> center employment consulting firm who did a bad job of regurgitation
> information contained on our web site.  At least she didn't claim she was
> me.  During the question/answer session she couldn't answer any of the
> questions but I did get a chance to ask her, if she was going to steel all
> of my material, could she at least do a better job of presenting it.  I then
> answered all of the audience questions.
> 
> The conference organizers were apologetic.  Being in the US, where
> everyone's brother-in-law is an attorney, I should have sued someone just
> out of principle. Some people's kids have no shame.
> 
> Roger 148 
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: public-list-bounces at lists.alberg30.org
> [mailto:public-list-bounces at lists.alberg30.org] On Behalf Of Gordon Laco
> Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 9:56 AM
> To: Alberg 30 Public List -- open to all
> Subject: Re: [Public-List] So Cal A-30 casting call
> 
> Good morning Roger -
> 
> That's almost not funny...
> 
> The swordmaster's on M&C have come across several imposters who claim credit
> for choreographing the fight scenes in M&C.  Dan Speaker has told me that
> when he goes to auditions he brings a copy of the 'making of' book so that
> he can quash claims that appear to supercede his.  In my own case, there was
> fellow in Canada who claimed on his website and in various presentations
> that he had my job.  This was while we were still making the film.  As he
> was the past-director of the Canadian War Museum this caused a pile of
> confusion.  After the film, presumably when it was apparent that his name
> was not in the credits, he started a hate mail campaign via email that I
> turned over to the police.  He sent me what looked to be a sincere apology
> but starts up again whenever my name is in the media.  I used to consider
> him a friend and colleague.
> 
> Oh humans are strange creatures.  People who have been in this longer than I
> have offered the consolation that such doings are not at all unusual.  Back
> to my own case, when I finally got back from M&C's principal photography, I
> showed up at our sailing club's Christmas dinner with my wife.  Nobody had
> seen me since April.   A fellow member who I knew only casually, perhaps a
> little tipsy, came up to me and said aggressively "so I hear you think you
> are quite the naval historian.  Well I've got a buddy who really knows what
> he's talking about.  He's a real pro..." and so on.  Then he said "my friend
> is way ahead of you, you're just playing at it, he is just back from working
> on the new Russell Crowe movie..." I stopped him and said " (name deleted)
> just a minute - I think I am the friend you are talking about".  He looked
> shocked and abruptly turned away.  He has never spoken to me since.
> 
> I guess the lesson is there is a cost to doing things that draw attention
> that I certainly would never have been able to predict.   That is why I was
> more formal than I think you folks expected about putting my talk up on the
> web.  The stories etc I told were all true - but I was talking to a room
> full of friends and not so formally as I might have if I were talking to the
> world.  
> 
> Gord #426 Surprise
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On 6/24/09 8:53 AM, "Roger L. Kingsland" <r.kingsland at ksba.com> wrote:
> 
>> Gord,
>> 
>> Don't you remember, I was the skipper on the lest three races SURPRISE
> won.
>> I have it on my sailing resume.  Let me know if you need any tips on
>> how to make her go fast.
>> 
>> Roger
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: public-list-bounces at lists.alberg30.org
>> [mailto:public-list-bounces at lists.alberg30.org] On Behalf Of Gordon
>> Laco
>> Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 8:42 AM
>> To: Alberg 30 Public List -- open to all
>> Subject: Re: [Public-List] So Cal A-30 casting call
>> 
>> I don't know this fellow apart from seeing him do a talk at a sailing
>> ship operator's convention during which he described in great detail
>> how he'd done my job on the film Master and Commander.  I introduced
>> myself to him after; he went pale.
>> 
>> I noticed this morning that he had removed his M&C claim from his rack
>> of film credits but still has pictures from the project in his photo
> album.
>> 
>> I'd guess what that means is keep your eyes open and get a firm deal
>> before committing anything!
>> 
>> Gord #426 Surprise
>> 
>> 
>> On 6/23/09 11:51 PM, "Rick Leach" <rixquik at yahoo.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> The request below just came in.  I have no affiliation or knowledge
>>> beyond what you see here, but didn't see any harm in passing it along.
>> Cheers!
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Dear Skipper,
>>> I am looking for an Alberg 30 in the Los Angeles area to be used for
>>> a one day shoot for a show on CBS the week of July 30. Do you have
>>> any contacts  for any L.A. based area Alberg owners.
>>> 
>>> Thanks
>>> 
>>> Mike Neipris
>>> Nautical Film Services
>>> www.nauticalfilmservices.com
>>> 310-729-6920
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