[Public-List] Alberg 22 - Members of the GLAA

John Birch Sunstone at cogeco.ca
Mon Oct 19 05:32:50 PDT 2009


One additional piece of info. The A-22s form an important and sizeable 
component of the Great Lakes Alberg Association as we admit members of all 
Alberg designs, not just the 30s. Suggest talking to the A-22 members of the 
GLAA.

I have observed the same issues with my moisture meter as Gord has spoken to 
re deck saturation. Though they get so punky you don't need a meter to tell 
the decks propensity to get soggy. Pity Nye cut so many corners.

The issues created of Nye's 22s compromises are far harder to fix than 
Whitby's few relatively minor issues of the A30, like changing out a few 
chain plate bolts, or fixing the goose neck rivets or the early boat's main 
beam issues. Nye's 22's are major structural compromises.

Again, so sad - pity Carl didn't anticipate those kind of corner cuttings 
might take place and had insisted on a creative control clause. But really, 
who would have anticipated such silliness.

Hard to deNye - damnable shame, such a nice looking boat

ATB

John





----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Gordon Laco" <mainstay at csolve.net>
To: "Alberg 30 Public List -- open to all" <public-list at lists.alberg30.org>
Sent: Monday, October 19, 2009 8:09 AM
Subject: Re: [Public-List] Alberg 22


> Well now that the dam has been broken...
>
> Be very careful about the decks.  There are two Alberg 22's that have 
> been abandoned here in southern Georgian Bay due to what seems to be 
> nearly complete water saturation in the deck cores.  I don't know what 
> the cause was but I have never seen such uniformly soft deck surfaces.
>
> Gord #426 (sorry as well)
>
>
>
> On 19-Oct-09, at 7:54 AM, John Birch wrote:
>
>> An Alberg designed boat is by definition a fine sailing boat. 
>> Unfortunately, Alberg had no control on how they were built.
>>
>> Unlike the Whitby Built A-30 & 37, the Nye built 22s has mild steel 
>> framing used in their rudders instead of bronze. As well, Nye used  mild 
>> steel welded to stainless for the encapsulated chain plates.  These 
>> compromises have started to show issues with the A-22 as they  age.
>>
>> It's a pity, because they are such a pretty boat.
>>
>> Sorry to be a Grinch
>>
>> John
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Stephen Gwyn" 
>> <gwyn at beluga.phys.uvic.ca
>> >
>> To: <public-list at lists.alberg30.org>
>> Sent: Sunday, October 18, 2009 2:25 PM
>> Subject: [Public-List] Alberg 22
>>
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I've met four people with Alberg 22s. All four loved them. They go 
>>> faster than Alberg 30s in light air.  Build quality is about the  same 
>>> as an Alberg 30. They were not built by Whitby Boatworks but  Nye 
>>> Yachts. The only complaint I heard was one guy had moved his  outboard 
>>> from the outboard well to the transom, which then  delaminated after 10 
>>> years.
>>>>
>>> I recently sold my Alberg 30 two years ago. I am looking for
>>>> something smaller. There is an Alberg 22 available. It looks very  good 
>>>> but I did not know that there was a 22 built. Does anyone  know about a 
>>>> 22 Alberg and its quality?
>>>
>>>
>>> Stephen Gwyn
>>> Quasar #495
>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------
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