[Public-List] Sailing technique
Jonathan Budington
jon at globalprinting.com
Tue Jul 20 14:01:21 PDT 2010
I agree with this. But you must also be prepared to deal with a very
sudden change in conditions. We had the head sail furled in less than a
minute, and we reefed the main for the ride home. Upon getting this
done, we had 10 knots for the rest of the ride.
It sure was exhilarating though.
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Michael J.
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My advice - select, trim and reef your sails to the boat, the
conditions, and the crew!
My daughter Rachel once responded to a near-knockdown with a questioning
"Dad???"
My first mate Patricia has a more vociferous response to a steady 25
degree heel.
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[mailto:public-list-bounces at lists.alberg30.org] On Behalf Of Kris Coward
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Just to let everyone know; you don't have to be a kid to be exhilerated
by a (near) knockdown. Tracey and I were taking a couple of friends
across the lake to St. Catharines last summer, and they thought it
tremendously exciting in spite of being 30-ish. Our casualties were an
old handheld GPS and our (emergency) spare front nav lights, which
floated away. (Tracey, Xana, and I weren't quite so thrilled.)
Cheers,
Kris
On Tue, Jul 20, 2010 at 01:28:17PM -0400, George Dinwiddie wrote:
> Calypso took a knock-down in June with a bunch of ~10 year old junior
> sailors on board. They thought it was quite exciting. The only
> casualty was a pair of sandals that floated out of the cockpit and
> didn't float.
>
> Gail wasn't aboard.
>
> - George
>
> On 7/19/10 4:15 PM, Jonathan Budington wrote:
>> We've been sailing the boat with our kids this summer, so I've been
>> reefing early and keeping the boat as flat as possible. Sunday was
>> odd, as the wind was light during most of the day. I would never
>> have that much sail out with kids on the boat if I though it would
>> blow 24. My wife did not enjoy that part of the ride (although I
>> thought it was very exciting).
>>
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>> [mailto:public-list-bounces at lists.alberg30.org] On Behalf Of Gail
>> DeMoss
>> Sent: Monday, July 19, 2010 4:10 PM
>> To: Alberg 30 Public List -- open to all
>> Subject: Re: [Public-List] Sailing technique
>>
>> If you want to keep your mate happy and on-board, keep the boat
>> upright. The Alberg sails better, faster and more comfortably on her
>> feet. J's are light and tippy and they need to heel to get speed.
>> Leaving a winch wake is NOT good.
>>
>> Gail
>> "Calypso" # 543
>>
>> On 7/19/10 4:01 PM, Kris Coward wrote:
>>> But when your angle of heel gets bigger, that stops being the case
>> (for
>>> the rudder, at least). I've had the questionable fortune to have
>>> been steering the boat vertically down in the past (thank god
>>> they're
>> buoyant
>>> enough that I was no more effective in this direction than I was at
>>> bearing off until I could get the main loose).
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Kris
>>>
>>> On Mon, Jul 19, 2010 at 03:35:44PM -0400, Jonathan Budington wrote:
>>>
>>>> Yes - heading down meant sailing off the wind to about 60 degrees
>> from
>>>> 45. The boat felt like it wanted to round up quickly, so pushing
>>>> it down hard helped flatten it out. I did let the main out, and
>>>> the
>> boat
>>>> came up quickly. I was just curious if there was a good reason to
>> leave
>>>> the main alone - I wasn't about to test the theory with my family
>>>> aboard.
>>>>
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>>>> [mailto:public-list-bounces at lists.alberg30.org] On Behalf Of Kris
>> Coward
>>>> Sent: Monday, July 19, 2010 3:16 PM
>>>> To: Alberg 30 Public List -- open to all
>>>> Subject: Re: [Public-List] Sailing technique
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Once you get enough heel, trying to steer down stops meaning
>> "downwind".
>>>> Whether by sheet or halyard (I prefer sheet since it's easier to
>>>> undo once out of the gust), you've got to let the main loose if you
>>>> want
>> to
>>>> regain control of the boat. Ignore the J-30 captain.
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Kris
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Jul 19, 2010 at 02:20:33PM -0400, Jonathan Budington wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I was sailing in the Bay yesterday afternoon - nice breeze of
>>>>> about
>> 12
>>>>> knots. We were heading south towards Annapolis when I noticed the
>>>>>
>>>> boat
>>>>
>>>>> ahead of us was knocked down. Before I could reduce sail (no reef
>> and
>>>>> the full genoa out), we were hit by a 24 knot gust. The boat
>>>>> healed
>>>>>
>>>> (as
>>>>
>>>>> it usually does), and wanted to head up. I pulled hard on the
>> tiller
>>>>> and headed down until the gust subsided. My wife lost her drink
>> (and
>>>>> composure), and my 5 kids were yelling "do that again". I think
>>>>> we reached a heal angle of 32 degrees - the leeward rail was well
>>>>> under water. My questions are:
>>>>>
>>>>> How far can an Alberg heel over before steering is lost?
>>>>>
>>>>> Is heading down the right course of action? (I was told to leave
>>>>> the sheets alone by a J-30 captain - just head off hard).
>>>>>
>>>>> Jon Budington
>>>>> Nimble
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