[Public-List] Sailing technique
Gordon Laco
mainstay at csolve.net
Tue Jul 20 14:07:40 PDT 2010
Once a long time ago in our Folkboat I was taking my sons up the coast on a
'boys cruise'. Once out of Severn Sound it was a little rough and I was
afraid I was going to traumatize Pete and Rob... I called into the cabin
'are you guys OK?' 'NOOOOO' they wailed.
When I asked what was wrong they hollered back 'our trucks won't stay put'.
They were OK
Gord #426 SURPRISE
On 20/07/10 5:01 PM, "Jonathan Budington" <jon at globalprinting.com> wrote:
> I agree with this. But you must also be prepared to deal with a very
> sudden change in conditions. We had the head sail furled in less than a
> minute, and we reefed the main for the ride home. Upon getting this
> done, we had 10 knots for the rest of the ride.
>
> It sure was exhilarating though.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: public-list-bounces at lists.alberg30.org
> [mailto:public-list-bounces at lists.alberg30.org] On Behalf Of Meinhold,
> Michael J.
> Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2010 4:43 PM
> To: Alberg 30 Public List -- open to all
> Subject: Re: [Public-List] Sailing technique
>
> My advice - select, trim and reef your sails to the boat, the
> conditions, and the crew!
> My daughter Rachel once responded to a near-knockdown with a questioning
> "Dad???"
>
> My first mate Patricia has a more vociferous response to a steady 25
> degree heel.
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> [mailto:public-list-bounces at lists.alberg30.org] On Behalf Of Kris Coward
> Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2010 4:32 PM
> To: Alberg 30 Public List -- open to all
> Subject: Re: [Public-List] Sailing technique
>
>
> Just to let everyone know; you don't have to be a kid to be exhilerated
> by a (near) knockdown. Tracey and I were taking a couple of friends
> across the lake to St. Catharines last summer, and they thought it
> tremendously exciting in spite of being 30-ish. Our casualties were an
> old handheld GPS and our (emergency) spare front nav lights, which
> floated away. (Tracey, Xana, and I weren't quite so thrilled.)
>
> Cheers,
> Kris
>
> On Tue, Jul 20, 2010 at 01:28:17PM -0400, George Dinwiddie wrote:
>> Calypso took a knock-down in June with a bunch of ~10 year old junior
>> sailors on board. They thought it was quite exciting. The only
>> casualty was a pair of sandals that floated out of the cockpit and
>> didn't float.
>>
>> Gail wasn't aboard.
>>
>> - George
>>
>> On 7/19/10 4:15 PM, Jonathan Budington wrote:
>>> We've been sailing the boat with our kids this summer, so I've been
>>> reefing early and keeping the boat as flat as possible. Sunday was
>>> odd, as the wind was light during most of the day. I would never
>>> have that much sail out with kids on the boat if I though it would
>>> blow 24. My wife did not enjoy that part of the ride (although I
>>> thought it was very exciting).
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: public-list-bounces at lists.alberg30.org
>>> [mailto:public-list-bounces at lists.alberg30.org] On Behalf Of Gail
>>> DeMoss
>>> Sent: Monday, July 19, 2010 4:10 PM
>>> To: Alberg 30 Public List -- open to all
>>> Subject: Re: [Public-List] Sailing technique
>>>
>>> If you want to keep your mate happy and on-board, keep the boat
>>> upright. The Alberg sails better, faster and more comfortably on her
>
>>> feet. J's are light and tippy and they need to heel to get speed.
>>> Leaving a winch wake is NOT good.
>>>
>>> Gail
>>> "Calypso" # 543
>>>
>>> On 7/19/10 4:01 PM, Kris Coward wrote:
>>>> But when your angle of heel gets bigger, that stops being the case
>>> (for
>>>> the rudder, at least). I've had the questionable fortune to have
>>>> been steering the boat vertically down in the past (thank god
>>>> they're
>>> buoyant
>>>> enough that I was no more effective in this direction than I was at
>>>> bearing off until I could get the main loose).
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Kris
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Jul 19, 2010 at 03:35:44PM -0400, Jonathan Budington wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Yes - heading down meant sailing off the wind to about 60 degrees
>>> from
>>>>> 45. The boat felt like it wanted to round up quickly, so pushing
>>>>> it down hard helped flatten it out. I did let the main out, and
>>>>> the
>>> boat
>>>>> came up quickly. I was just curious if there was a good reason to
>>> leave
>>>>> the main alone - I wasn't about to test the theory with my family
>>>>> aboard.
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: public-list-bounces at lists.alberg30.org
>>>>> [mailto:public-list-bounces at lists.alberg30.org] On Behalf Of Kris
>>> Coward
>>>>> Sent: Monday, July 19, 2010 3:16 PM
>>>>> To: Alberg 30 Public List -- open to all
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Public-List] Sailing technique
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Once you get enough heel, trying to steer down stops meaning
>>> "downwind".
>>>>> Whether by sheet or halyard (I prefer sheet since it's easier to
>>>>> undo once out of the gust), you've got to let the main loose if you
>
>>>>> want
>>> to
>>>>> regain control of the boat. Ignore the J-30 captain.
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>> Kris
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Jul 19, 2010 at 02:20:33PM -0400, Jonathan Budington wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I was sailing in the Bay yesterday afternoon - nice breeze of
>>>>>> about
>>> 12
>>>>>> knots. We were heading south towards Annapolis when I noticed the
>>>>>>
>>>>> boat
>>>>>
>>>>>> ahead of us was knocked down. Before I could reduce sail (no reef
>>> and
>>>>>> the full genoa out), we were hit by a 24 knot gust. The boat
>>>>>> healed
>>>>>>
>>>>> (as
>>>>>
>>>>>> it usually does), and wanted to head up. I pulled hard on the
>>> tiller
>>>>>> and headed down until the gust subsided. My wife lost her drink
>>> (and
>>>>>> composure), and my 5 kids were yelling "do that again". I think
>>>>>> we reached a heal angle of 32 degrees - the leeward rail was well
>>>>>> under water. My questions are:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> How far can an Alberg heel over before steering is lost?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Is heading down the right course of action? (I was told to leave
>>>>>> the sheets alone by a J-30 captain - just head off hard).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jon Budington
>>>>>> Nimble
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