[Public-List] Hello from Vancouver. (Somewhat)proud newowner of Antares 1967 A30.

Thu Aug 2 06:11:18 PDT 2012

I just use an ordinary house jack that is typically found to support beams 
in a basement of a house. It had to be cut so it would fit in the Alberg but 
it is just a screw type jack. I put a piece of wood (2x4) under the beam and 
another across the floor (4x4) that spans the floor from side-to-side where 
the floor meets the hull so you don't crush the floor. You can sail the boat 
with the post in place although I would tighten it periodically so it does 
not come loose.

Mike Lehman

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-----Original Message----- 
From: Jeremy Brown
Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2012 3:04 PM
To: Alberg 30 Public List -- open to all
Subject: Re: [Public-List] Hello from Vancouver. (Somewhat)proud newowner of 
Antares 1967 A30.

That sounds good to me, do it a bit later and do it once properly.  Any 
suggestions on making it accurately repositioned, or the tolerance I'm 
working with on leveling the step or does it just not really matter?  Just 
worried about accuracy with mast down.

What about bracing beam when under sail as I read they used to when racing, 
would the leveling post be ok for that/anyone have pictures of how they did 
it?

Post is adjustable, used last for removing floor joists and replacing later.

Mike Lehman <sail_505 at hotmail.com> wrote:

You can repair tabbing in other places, it would just be a waste of time do
repair the tabbing around the beam until it is pressed back into its
original (or close to original) position. Looking at your beam, I think you
could wait...I would avoid any heavy weather sailing

Mike Lehman

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-----Original Message----- 
From: Jeremy Brown
Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2012 11:55 AM
To: Alberg 30 Public List -- open to all
Subject: Re: [Public-List] Hello from Vancouver. (Somewhat) proud newowner
of Antares 1967 A30.

Where I am right now that could easily cost a thousand dollars(350 to drop,
same to put back plus 30$/day to leave mast on land, storage on deck not
allowed).  I haven't got the money for that right now in addition to repair
costs.

  When you say don't do tabbing repair, do you mean any tabbing at all, or
just mast tabbing?  I want to repair the anchor locker, and the tabbing on
the galley bulkhead if I can, while I install insulation in the v berth,
does the mast support beam affect the shape of the v berth and rest of boat?

Mast had no washers on the step that I can see I'll move it forward as far
as i can though, I wonder why someone would move it fully aft.

I have no door to test with unfortunately.  What is the mast step's
tolerance for position?

If it isn't going to destroy itself in the near future, or get worse
quickly, I think I'll just have to leave it for next year when I can take
some time off and use a mast crane for 50$ near my parents place.

Could I use a support to brace it when sailing as mentioned that used to be
done by early racers?  I have a support post as used to hold up houses that
would fit perfectly, easy in and out, and I could leave it out while living
aboard.

Thanks for your good advice!

Jeremy

Mike Lehman <sail_505 at hotmail.com> wrote:

Jeremy

If you are removing the beam, I would suggest you also remove the mast.
I would not repair the tabbing until the beam is jacked back to position.
The door to the forward cabin will give you an idea of how far to jack up
the beam. The door should close.
The mast should be position as far forward on the mast step as possible,
even to the point where you could trim the washers. This positions the mast
more over the beam and also helpos to reduce weather helm.

Mike Lehman

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-----Original Message----- 
From: Jeremy Brown
Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2012 10:33 PM
To: Alberg 30 Public List -- open to all
Subject: Re: [Public-List] Hello from Vancouver. (Somewhat) proud new owner
of Antares 1967 A30.

That is a very cool mast support!
I'm very torn between replacing the beam and bracing it, if I'm replacing
the beam is there anything else I should do at the same time in regards to
the mast step/bolts.
the boat builder/repair guy I work with looked at it today, and he said it
looks like the mast is leaning to port slightly.  he'll be glassing in the
new bulkhead for the anchor locker, and repairing the broken tabbing all
around over the next week or two.

I'm wondering if I remove the beam, and loosen the rigging, how do I tell
when the deck is where it should be?

Second, where should I position the jacks to raise the deck when the beam is
out.

Third, how accurate do I need to be in terms of leveling the mast step, and
how do I level the step/deck to correct the dip in the cabin top aft of the
beam, I'm unsure if this dip is something I can get rid of since the deck
looks good on top, and I'm worried that pushing it up may distort the deck
if some internal repairs were done from the bottom.

If I just raise the deck, will it get close enough that I can then true it
up the rest of the way with the rigging?
Can anybody recommend a good rigger in the PNW?  My rigging has to be
inspected by a rigger within a year of the survey according to the survey,
so I might as well kill two birds with one stone.

Where should the mast be positioned on the step, I noticed mine is pushed
all the way aft.

Is there any other reason I'd need to drop my mast in the next few years, or
can I leave it until I have a more amenable place to do it(it will cost me
close to 1000$ at my current marina, but I can use a mast crane elsewhere
for free in a year or so, and could do the mast beam properly and more
easily at the same time if it's not going to fail under load in the near
future, or damage the deck).

Thanks :-)

----- Original Message -----
From: "LAF" <reefed.main at gmail.com>
To: "Alberg 30 Public List -- open to all" <public-list at lists.alberg30.org>
Sent: Monday, July 30, 2012 7:09:05 AM
Subject: Re: [Public-List] Hello from Vancouver. (Somewhat) proud new owner
of Antares 1967 A30.

George and all,
Here is a link to images of the SS mast support I made.
http://s1073.photobucket.com/albums/w386/NanoByTheSea/Alberg%2030%20SS%20Mast%20Support/
I explained how I did this in an earlier email, but if there are any
questions let me know.
LAF
SV Avalon
*Slan Abhaile*, Gaelic for Safe journey home

On Wed, Jul 25, 2012 at 10:23 AM, George Dinwiddie
<gdinwiddie at alberg30.org>wrote:

> On 7/25/12 1:14 PM, LAF wrote:
>         [snip]
>
>  I am not sure how to send pics so if you want to send your email we could
>> connect that way. Unless another option is presented.
>>
>         [snip]
>
>
>> On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 10:36 PM, Jeremy Brown <j_l_brown at shaw.ca> wrote:
>>
>         [snip]
>
>  Is it preferred to post a link to an image hosted elsewhere if one is
>>> needed?
>>>
>>
> You can send pictures to me, and I'll be glad to post them on
> http://alberg30.org/**maintenance/disorganized/<http://alberg30.org/maintenance/disorganized/>or,
> if you'd prefer, I can give you a login to
> http://www.alberg30.org/**gallery/ <http://www.alberg30.org/gallery/> for
> you to post your own.
>
>  - George
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