[Public-List] inner staysl shown on original Whitby Brochure??

Thu Mar 8 19:10:44 PST 2012

Thanks David,

Having these sail dimensions in one spot is very helpful.  might be a good idea if someone could post them to the A30 web site under rigging, maybe.  also the mast dimensions and  section etc.  it would be good reference material.

I am still curious about the staysail.  the original sail plan in the builders brochure does not show a spinaker.  I wonder if Carl A. meant for the staysail to be used with a big Genny  in light air.  And if it provides sufficient drive to mess with??  I guess it depends how badly one one wants to ghost along.

Glenn P  

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On Mar 8, 2012, at 10:45 AM, David Terrell <dterrell1 at charter.net> wrote:

> Glenn
> 
> I was just on the sailrite.com site. They have sail plans for many boats including ours. I see the attachment points above the spreaders and just aft of the stem head - I see about what you see - two feet and four feet. My read is that they show a # 1, 2, and 3 Genoa on the forestay and a staysail  on the inner forestay. Their storm sail dimensions fit with what I see on the forestay. I am up on this a bit because I am going doing the same thing after a lot of hesitating.
> 
> I copied this from their site. I think  it may be helpful
> 
> David, 432
> 
> 
> Data courtesy of:   sailrite
> I	J	P	E	I2/P2	J2/E2
> 36.00ft (10973mm)	10.75ft (3277mm)	31.00ft (9449mm)	14.25ft (4343mm)		
> 
> CONSTRUCTION AND BACKGROUND DETAILS
> Length:	30ft (9144mm)
> Source of Data:	Class Rules
> Builder/Designer:	Carl Alberg
> URL:	http://www.alberg30.org/
> Production Status:	Out Of Production
> Description:	
> 
> 
> SAIL DIMENSION TABLES (the more popular sails only)
> 
> ALBERG 30 MAINSAIL	Price This Sail
> Luff	31ft (9448mm)
> Foot	14.25ft (4343mm)
> Leech-AftHdBd	33.36ft (10168mm)
> Tack Ang	87.29*
> Diag (clew/head)	33.5ft (10210mm)
> Head (inches)	4.5in (114mm)
> Area (no Roach)	226.44*ft2 (21037mm2)
> Comments	midgirth 8'6"
> 
> 
> 
> ALBERG 30 GENOA	Price This Sail
> Luff	34ft (10363mm)
> Foot	19ft (5791mm)
> Leech	33.5ft (10210mm)
> Perc LP	168.28*
> Length Perp	18.09*ft (5513mm)
> Deck Angle	1.16*
> Area	307.55*ft2 (28572mm2)
> Comments	No 1 genoa
> 
> 
> 
> ALBERG 30 JIBSAIL	Price This Sail
> Luff	30ft (9143mm)
> Foot	10.25ft (3124mm)
> Leech	25.75ft (7848mm)
> Perc LP	79.26*
> Length Perp	8.52*ft (2596mm)
> Deck Angle	17.16*
> Area	127.78*ft2 (11871mm2)
> Comments	working jib 7.25oz maximum cloth weight
> 
> 
> 
> ALBERG 30 GENOA	Price This Sail
> Luff	33ft (10058mm)
> Foot	15.75ft (4800mm)
> Leech	31.5ft (9601mm)
> Perc LP	138.23*
> Length Perp	14.86*ft (4529mm)
> Deck Angle	2.75*
> Area	245.16*ft2 (22776mm2)
> Comments	
> 
> 
> 
> ALBERG 30 SPINNAKER	Price This Sail
> Stay	35.69*ft (10878mm)
> Foot	19.35*ft (5897mm)
> MidGirth	19.35*ft (5897mm)
> Perc LP	180*
> Area	587*ft2 (54534mm2)
> Comments	
> 
> 
> 
> ALBERG 30 ASYMMETRICAL	Price This Sail
> Luff	36ft (10972mm)
> Foot	18ft (5486mm)
> Leech	33ft (10058mm)
> Perc LP	165*
> Area	486*ft2 (45151mm2)
> Comments	
> 
> 
> 
> ALBERG 30 STORMJIB	Price This Sail
> Luff	20.66*ft (6297mm)
> Foot	7.94*ft (2420mm)
> Leech	17.28*ft (5266mm)
> Perc LP	60.0*
> Length Perp	6.45*ft (1965mm)
> Deck Angle	19.04*
> Area	66.64*ft2 (6191mm2)
> Comments	
> 
> 
> 
> ALBERG 30 DRIFTER	Price This Sail
> Luff	35.69*ft (10878mm)
> Foot	17.88*ft (5449mm)
> Leech	32.27*ft (9835mm)
> Perc LP	149.95*
> Length Perp	16.12*ft (4913mm)
> Deck Angle	9.01*
> Area	287.67*ft2 (26726mm2)
> Comments	
> 
> 
> 
> ALBERG 30 DRIFTER	Price This Sail
> Luff	31ft (9448mm)
> Foot	14.25ft (4343mm)
> Leech	34ft (10363mm)
> Perc LP	132.56*
> Length Perp	14.25*ft (4343mm)
> Deck Angle	-16.10*
> Area	220.87*ft2 (20520mm2)
> Comments	
> 
> 
> 
> On Wed, Mar 7, 2012 at 9:37 PM, brooks.glenn at comcast.net wrote:
> 
>> Hello all,
>> 
>> haha, just now looked closely at the original A-30 brochure that came with Dolce (7 years buried in my filing cabinet).
>> 
>> I see what appears to be a deck sweeping inner staysail drawn on the sail plan (L:19.0', Foot: 14.0', leach 21.0'). Tacks to the deck a foot or two aft the stem head, and clew sweeps right down to side deck bisecting the forward main cabin window. The head is hoisted by the toping lift halyard mounted on the mast maybe 4' above the spreaders...
>> 
>> Can anybody comment on what this sail is designed for?? The sail is clearly not a storm jyb, but I wonder if this position could be used to hoist a storm jyb? or is this only a light air lapper??? If this is supposed to be a light air sail, what weight sail cloth might be most appropriate these days?
>> 
>> Thanks!
>> 
>> Glenn P S/V Dolce sail # 318
>> 
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