[Public-List] inner staysl shown on original Whitby Brochure??

Sun Mar 11 16:07:03 PDT 2012

My Dads Healy was only three years old when he bought it; I remember him dealing with a gearbox problem that was chronic, the batteries fell out once on the highway... But I loved the way it looked and sounded

On 2012-03-09, at 12:25 PM, Mike Lehman <sail_505 at hotmail.com> wrote:

> I had a 3000 in college - the single most unreliable car I ever owner...but fun as hell to drive. I got 7 tickets with one stop - I had to explain to the judge why I needed to keep my license.
> 
> TODAY, my car of choice would be a Honda S2000 - highest HP/cc of any normally aspirated production car in the world - red line...9000 RPM. Man could I rack up some fines with that car! And Honda reliability to boot.
> 
> -----Original Message----- From: Gordon Laco
> Sent: Friday, March 09, 2012 12:19 PM
> To: Alberg 30 Public List -- open to all
> Subject: Re: [Public-List] inner staysl shown on original Whitby Brochure??
> 
> Hi John -
> 
> My Dad had a Healy 3000.  He sold it when my younger brother was born.  I
> was only seven years old but do remember wishing he'd keep it till I could
> drive it...
> 
> They're really expensive now...
> 
> G
> 
> 
> 
> On 09/03/12 12:13 PM, "John Birch" <Sunstone at cogeco.ca> wrote:
> 
>> When I had my 30 I asked North about the Spin staysl on the A30's sailplan.
>> 
>> They said, don't use it - the deck is unsupported and sooner or later you'll
>> keep it up for too long, go over a wave and pop the deck.
>> 
>> As for affixing a storm jib, double forget about it unless you plan to do
>> some reengineering.
>> 
>> As for the MGB Gord, sweet, though I prefer the Healy 3000 III or the XK
>> 150 - just a personal thing.
>> 
>> But the Miata is proof that a sports car can be made practical & reliable
>> and handle well - pity it took the Japanese to figure it out for us ; )
>> Wonder what Mazda could do with a reissue/reliable 3000 or XK.
>> 
>> That would be something to behold.
>> 
>> ATB
>> 
>> John
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Gordon Laco" <mainstay at csolve.net>
>> To: "Alberg 30 Public List -- open to all" <public-list at lists.alberg30.org>
>> Sent: Friday, March 09, 2012 11:31 AM
>> Subject: Re: [Public-List] inner staysl shown on original Whitby Brochure??
>> 
>> 
>>> Hello Don -
>>> 
>>> You're correct, the issues between the staysail and the spinnaker will get
>>> worse if the intermediate sail is set on the forestay as would be the case
>>> if a smaller jib were used as a spinnaker staysail.  The thing is if you
>>> get
>>> the staysail's luff closer to the 'chute, that's not a good thing.
>>> 
>>> Back in the early '60's people were playing with divided foresail
>>> combinations but the practice has died out.  In very large boats it can
>>> work
>>> but generally not in boats under 40'.
>>> 
>>> Ah, the old Whitby Folkboat vs International Folkboat thing.  Yes, Kurt
>>> built some with masthead rigs.  I've never sailed one but imagine the
>>> larger
>>> genny was a good thing.   I reckon some of the Folkboat's incredible
>>> pointing ability was compromised, but on all other points of sail I'm sure
>>> it was an improvement.   But of course one cannot consider the masthead
>>> boats were 'real' Folkboats.
>>> 
>>> And THAT reminds me of the first time I drove a Mazda Miata.  I have owned
>>> an MGB for 27 years.... When I drove the Miata I was astonished at it's
>>> nimblness and smooth power.  All the gauges worked, the engine idled,
>>> there
>>> were no funny burning odours and it's owner proudly told me he intended to
>>> drive it all year round.  I thought to myself "so this is what MG was
>>> trying
>>> to create.."
>>> 
>>> But then I thought, what's the point?  Nothing to worry about, nothing to
>>> tinker with, no awkward and/or dangerous characteristics to proudly
>>> endure.
>>> I'll keep the MG...
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Gord
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 09/03/12 11:12 AM, "Don Campbell" <dk.campbell at sympatico.ca> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Mike :
>>>>     Have the rules been changed so that no head sail can fly with a
>>>> spinnaker?  As of 2010,  Chesapeake race rule  (15D) specifically does
>>>> not allow spinnaker stay sails, but  'any allowed headsail may be flown
>>>> with the spinnaker'. Since the working jib has a luff of 30', that might
>>>> make the difficulties Gord has encountered with a chute and staysail
>>>> even greater.
>>>>     Rule 14 D within the Canadian rules does allow spinnaker staysails.
>>>> 
>>>>     At the same time, there may have been  some very different ideas by
>>>> Aberg. It is my understanding that theAL30 was originally a fractional
>>>> rig design and  it was Kurt Hansen who changed the forestay based on his
>>>> experience with Folkboats in Humber Bay at Toronto (light air and heavy
>>>> boats). Undoubtedly the headsail sizes changed then too.
>>>>     Gord may wish to comment on the differences in designed rig between
>>>> a European and WBW Folkboat.
>>>> Don
>>>> #528
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