[Public-List] inner staysl shown on original Whitby Brochure??

[John Birch]

Gord, That was pretty much North's assessment at the time. Marginal sail at 
best with extremely limited range of use and not worth the effort as a spinn 
staysl.

As for a storm jib use, that's a lot of reengineering: likely involving a 
laminated beam under the deck to prevent side loading or twisting;

glassing a knee to the stem;

and some kind of rod attachment that goes through the deck without putting 
any pulling load on the deck;

Great source of leaks of water into the core sooner or later;

some kind of highfield lever to make it removable, because it would make 
tacking the genoa just about impossible if permanent;

running back stays to support the mast if its below the mast head.

Adds a fair amount of weight and top hamper, not sure its worth the expense 
and effort when a perfectly good forestay is a couple or 3 feet away.

Just sayin'

ATB

John


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Gordon Laco" <mainstay at csolve.net>
To: "Alberg 30 Public List -- open to all" <public-list at lists.alberg30.org>
Sent: Friday, March 09, 2012 8:27 AM
Subject: Re: [Public-List] inner staysl shown on original Whitby Brochure??


> Good morning -
>
> Do you folks in the Cheasapeake fleet use spinnaker staysails?  They're
> pretty much out of favour here in Ontario in all classes.   I have one and
> occasionally use it but it's main benefit seems not to be discernable 
> added
> thrust, but rather a psychological effect on foes.   In SURPRISE we took 
> to
> calling it 'the weapon', and would have over-loud and contrived
> conversations between cockpit and foredeck about 'should we set the 
> weapon'
> when racing in close company...and enjoy the nervous glances our foes 
> would
> be giving us.
>
> We've found that the performance envelope of this sail is very narrow.  It
> only draws well in the vicinity of reaching, and is utterly useless 
> broader
> reaching and running.  Close reaching with the spinnaker pole just off the
> forestay it starts bothering the spinnaker.
>
> I don't think its a useful sail for racing - anyone else have any 
> opinions?
>
> Gord #426 SURPRISE
>
>
>
>
> On 09/03/12 8:11 AM, "David Terrell" <dterrell1 at charter.net> wrote:
>
>> Glenn
>>
>> When I read the sail plan, especially in the context of previous
>> discussion about the staysail on this site, I think Carl meant  a
>> staysail. One could also fly a storm sail from the inner forestay.
>>
>> david
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 11:04 PM, Glennb wrote:
>>
>>> Hi George,
>>>
>>> yes, Perfect!  I never thought to look in the Association/ racing
>>> section, only looked under main category of 'Boat'.
>>>
>>> thanks much,
>>> Glenn P
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>
>>> On Mar 8, 2012, at 7:12 PM, George Dinwiddie <gdinwiddie at alberg30.org>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Glenn
>>>>
>>>> On 3/8/12 10:10 PM, Glennb wrote:
>>>>> Thanks David,
>>>>>
>>>>> Having these sail dimensions in one spot is very helpful.  might be
>>>>> a
>>>>> good idea if someone could post them to the A30 web site under
>>>>> rigging, maybe.  also the mast dimensions and  section etc.  it
>>>>> would
>>>>> be good reference material.
>>>>
>>>> You mean something like http://alberg30.org/Assoc/Racing/sails.html ?
>>>>
>>>> - George
>>>>
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