[Public-List] What size fitting for new teak cap rail

Wed May 23 05:29:12 PDT 2012

Hmmm

Sounds like the committee needs a lesson.  The collision in itself is as
clear a declaration of a foul as any red flag.   And equally clearly, your
duty as skipper to make sure you weren't sinking comes before the
technicality of raising a flag (which you did do as soon as you could).

I'd have been unhappy with that committee....

Gord #426 Surprise

On 23/05/12 8:20 AM, "Mike Lehman" <sail_505 at hotmail.com> wrote:

> Glen,
> 
> I pretty sure that I used #10 screws when I did this job many years ago. The
> wood was specifically chosen for its tight even grain. Even then, I broke a
> piece trying to bend it. The most severe bend is from the shrouds forward. I
> used 5200 to bed the rail. I also drilled out the pop rivets, opened the
> deck hull seam slightly and filled the seam with 5200. No leaks ever! What
> prompted all this work for me was a collision with another Alberg in a race
> in high wind when he lost control of his boat (spinnaker up in 35 knots) and
> t-boned me on the port side about 4 feet back from the bow. The collision
> opened the deck/hill seam from the point of collision all the way back to
> the jib track and the deck was lifted about 3". You could go below, climb
> over all of the cabinetry that was laying on the cabin sole and look out
> through the deck/hill seam.  We finished the race, but on a starboard tack
> the water would pour in so we would flip over to a port tack to pump the
> bilge. BTW, we were protested from the race because the race committee said
> that my #1 priority was to display the red protest flag...since it took
> about 10 minutes to determine if the still seaworthy, I didn't get the flag
> up in time and was disqualified.
> 
> These are strong boats!
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Glennb
> Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2012 12:13 AM
> To: Alberg 30 Public List -- open to all
> Subject: [Public-List] What size fitting for new teak cap rail
> 
> hello all,
> 
> I am wondering what size screws to use to fasten a new teak cap rail onto
> the bulwarks I replaced my old toe rail with?
> 
> the new bulwarks are 3 3/4" high, 11/8" thick, and I have milled some 12'
> teak boards into 5/8 x 2" cap rails.  the problem is teak is not very bendy
> so doesn't accept the curvy lines of the Alberg 30 very well, particularly
> amidships, it twists and jumps  up and turns over pretty easily because of
> stress in the wood fibers,  and fractures and breaks if bent to much,,, so
> lots of stress along the grain of the wood.
> 
> I  steam bent the milled pieces to mitigate the curve of the hull pretty
> well, but am  concerned about what size wood screw to use to fasten the cap
> rail down onto the bulwarks.   I have done one segment of cap rail with #8 x
> 11/4" wood screws, leaving about 7/8" embedded in the bulwrk and the top
> portion of the screw countersunk half way into the 5/8 cap. But the # 8
> screws seems a little puny!
> 
> if  I use a larger counter sunk  woodscrew, say a #10 would that weaken the
> cross section of wood across the cap rail to much at each screw,  (12 to 16"
> spacing along the rail) or if I stay with the smaller #8 screw, will that be
> to little holding power once the ocean slams into the already spring loaded
> teak rails??
> 
> I think I am inclined to go with a larger #10 screw, but would appreciate
> any advice (tomorrow I install the second length)
> 
> P.S.  Also, thoughts on screwing and glueing the teak more or less
> permanently to the bulwark with epoxy, or just bed it with dolphinite
> bedding compound... The bulwarks are sapelle, a form of African Mahogony,
> hence susceptible to rot at some point..
> 
> thanks much!
> 
> Glenn P.
> dolce 318
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
> On May 22, 2012, at 6:15 PM, "John Birch" <Sunstone at cogeco.ca> wrote:
> 
>> Thicker, heavier, is 'more gooder' ; )
>> 
>> Used it on our A-30, now on our A-37, makes a difference.
>> 
>> ATB
>> 
>> John
>> 
>> 
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jeffrey" <alberg30 at fongemie.com>
>> To: "Alberg 30 Public List -- open to all"
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>> Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2012 8:48 PM
>> Subject: [Public-List] What size coax for vhf?
>> 
>> 
>>> Anyone know anything about coax & vhf radios? I'm replacing the rotten
>>> old
>>> wire in the mast. RG-8x or RG-213.  Is R-213 overkill for our boats?
>>> 
>>> I've seen the numbers for signal loss, but it means nothing to me. I keep
>>> the radio about two feet from the galley bulkhead so i'm estimating 50
>>> feet
>>> to the top of the mast.
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