[Public-List] Public-List Digest, Vol 2359, Issue 1

Glennb brooks.glenn at comcast.net
Wed May 30 20:46:46 PDT 2012


Clayton,  

likely you do not have a loose shaft.  Typically the Alberg rudder shafts have four 1/4" bronze rods stuck through the shaft and and embedded longitudinally into the rudder blade,,, to prevent any twisting motion you described.  if the lower pin and rudder shoe is worn, and it likely is, you won't be able to feel any appreciable play just be hand forcing the rudder.  only time you will feel anything is when sailing under fairly high side load, reaching or running in my case when I discovered my lower rudder pin was worn and elongated.  

In my case, I machined out the lower socket to accommodate a 
 5/8" diameter pin, and replaced the shaft then turned the end to 5/8" to fit into the shoe.    so now lots of strength and larger bearing surface.  plenty of A30  owners have reported successfully drilling out the pin and replacing the old pin with a 1/2" silicon bolt tapped and screwed up into the bottom of rudder shaft,  then cut off to produce a smooth shank to fit into the lower shoe.    this works also, however, there is some risk of dissimilar bronze in the two materials- shaft and bolt, so is worth inspecting each year at haul out.

Cheers
Glenn P.
Dolce 318   

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On May 30, 2012, at 8:40 AM, "Meinhold, Michael J." <MICHAEL.J.MEINHOLD at saic.com> wrote:

> This may be a dumb question, but are you sure it's not slop in the
> tiller's connection to the rudder stock?
> If you are pulling the tiller over hard the inertia may carry the rudder
> and stock a bit further.  Do you feel the impact in the tiller or just
> the thud through the deck?
> 
> Mike
> Rinn Duin #272
> 
> -----Original Message-----
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> [mailto:public-list-bounces at lists.alberg30.org] On Behalf Of Clayton
> Zimmerman
> Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2012 10:30 AM
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> Subject: Re: [Public-List] Public-List Digest, Vol 2359, Issue 1
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> 
> Mike, yes, good idea. When I dove on the boat I went underneath the
> entire keel and everything was in place. From seeing drawings of the
> rudder construction I'm wondering how likely it is that the rudder shaft
> that goes through the rudder and does a few 90 degree turns may have
> loosened in the fiberglass? This issue is one you really only notice
> when intentionally cranking over hard to feel for it. Under sail or
> under power its un-noticable due to forces on one side or another. 
> Thanks again,Clayton
> 
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