[Public-List] Public-List Digest, Vol 2464, Issue 1
Noonan, Jim (WB)
Jim.Noonan at warnerbros.com
Mon Oct 22 07:30:42 PDT 2012
Any recommendations for movers to ship a 27ft Cape Dory from NY to LA? Thanks Jim
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Today's Topics:
1. Re: website (was: Circumnavigations) (George Dinwiddie)
2. Re: Current Example of problem of not changing the Subject
Line (Michael Connolly)
3. Re: Current Example of problem of not changing the Subject
Line (Ron Walker)
4. Re: Current Example of problem of not changing the Subject
Line (Noonan, Jim (WB))
5. Re: Circumnavigations; Entry in CBAA Handbook? (Michael Connolly)
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Message: 1
Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2012 15:20:30 -0400
From: George Dinwiddie <gdinwiddie at alberg30.org>
To: j_l_brown <j_l_brown at shaw.ca>, Alberg 30 Public List -- open to
all <public-list at lists.alberg30.org>
Subject: Re: [Public-List] website (was: Circumnavigations)
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Jeremy,
On 10/20/12 2:49 PM, j_l_brown wrote:
> I would still like to help. What can I do to help with the site?
> I wouldn't mind adding some info on the projects I've done over the
> past couple months. I have a lot of photos.
I'm always happy to add more useful information. If you'd like to write
up some of the projects you've done, I'll be glad to add them to the web
site.
The easiest format is a text file and separate pictures files, with the
pictures named in the text where they belong. I'll turn it into a web
page from that.
- George
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When I remember bygone days George Dinwiddie
I think how evening follows morn; gdinwiddie at alberg30.org
So many I loved were not yet dead, http://www.Alberg30.org
So many I love were not yet born. also see:
'The Middle' by Ogden Nash http://idiacomputing.com
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Message: 2
Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2012 01:13:21 +0000 (UTC)
From: Michael Connolly <crufone at comcast.net>
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Subject: Re: [Public-List] Current Example of problem of not changing
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George,
Thanks for the helpful tips.
Michael
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From: "George Dinwiddie" <gdinwiddie at alberg30.org>
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Sent: Saturday, October 20, 2012 12:33:05 PM
Subject: Re: [Public-List] Current Example of problem of not changing the Subject Line
Michael,
On 10/20/12 9:48 AM, Michael Connolly wrote:
>
>
> George Wrote,
> I find results for circumnavigators searching the message archives,
> either at http://alberg30.org/public-list or in the google search box on
> the pages of http://alberg30.org ?Neither give the results of today's
> emails, because the indexing is only run once a day and Google doesn't
> index the site continuously, either.
>
>
>
> For instance if someone were to search the Alberg 30 Web site for
> Circumnavigations and the site listed this current dialog the
> searcher would view a bunch of off topic conversations about Web Site
> listserv's vs Forums ...................... not germane or helpful to
> their search.
When you search the archives using the built-in search capability, it
lists the results by how well it matches the search term(s), not by just
the subject line. See
http://lists.alberg30.org/mmsearch.cgi/public-list-alberg30.org?config=public-list-alberg30.org&restrict=&exclude=&method=or&format=long&sort=score&words=circumnavigations+circumnavigator+circumnavigation+circumnavigators
for an example of the results.
You get similar results when using the Google search of the whole site:
http://alberg30.org/searchResults.html?q=circumnavigations This searches
both web pages and the email archives, together.
When you click through to a message, you can click "thread" to see the
message in context with others.
??- George
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?? When I remember bygone days ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? George Dinwiddie
?? I think how evening follows morn; ? ? ? ? ? ?gdinwiddie at alberg30.org
?? So many I loved were not yet dead, ? ? ? ? ? http://www.Alberg30.org
?? So many I love were not yet born. ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?also see:
?? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?'The Middle' by Ogden Nash ? ? http://idiacomputing.com
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Message: 3
Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2012 21:21:15 -0400
From: Ron Walker <rwpsw at sbcglobal.net>
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Subject: Re: [Public-List] Current Example of problem of not changing
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We're very lucky to have you George.
Sent from my iPhone
On Oct 20, 2012, at 9:13 PM, Michael Connolly <crufone at comcast.net> wrote:
>
>
> George,
>
> Thanks for the helpful tips.
>
> Michael
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
>
>
> From: "George Dinwiddie" <gdinwiddie at alberg30.org>
> To: "Alberg 30 Public List -- open to all" <public-list at lists.alberg30.org>
> Sent: Saturday, October 20, 2012 12:33:05 PM
> Subject: Re: [Public-List] Current Example of problem of not changing the Subject Line
>
> Michael,
>
> On 10/20/12 9:48 AM, Michael Connolly wrote:
>>
>>
>> George Wrote,
>> I find results for circumnavigators searching the message archives,
>> either at http://alberg30.org/public-list or in the google search box on
>> the pages of http://alberg30.org Neither give the results of today's
>> emails, because the indexing is only run once a day and Google doesn't
>> index the site continuously, either.
>>
>>
>>
>> For instance if someone were to search the Alberg 30 Web site for
>> Circumnavigations and the site listed this current dialog the
>> searcher would view a bunch of off topic conversations about Web Site
>> listserv's vs Forums ...................... not germane or helpful to
>> their search.
>
> When you search the archives using the built-in search capability, it
> lists the results by how well it matches the search term(s), not by just
> the subject line. See
> http://lists.alberg30.org/mmsearch.cgi/public-list-alberg30.org?config=public-list-alberg30.org&restrict=&exclude=&method=or&format=long&sort=score&words=circumnavigations+circumnavigator+circumnavigation+circumnavigators
> for an example of the results.
>
> You get similar results when using the Google search of the whole site:
> http://alberg30.org/searchResults.html?q=circumnavigations This searches
> both web pages and the email archives, together.
>
> When you click through to a message, you can click "thread" to see the
> message in context with others.
>
> - George
>
> --
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> When I remember bygone days George Dinwiddie
> I think how evening follows morn; gdinwiddie at alberg30.org
> So many I loved were not yet dead, http://www.Alberg30.org
> So many I love were not yet born. also see:
> 'The Middle' by Ogden Nash http://idiacomputing.com
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>
>
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Message: 4
Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2012 20:04:12 -0700
From: "Noonan, Jim (WB)" <Jim.Noonan at warnerbros.com>
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Subject: Re: [Public-List] Current Example of problem of not changing
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Some days when work is particularly tedious I scroll through the Public List and often read whatever is up there. It is a great escape even when you aren't looking for help or advice on a project. I think it is great.
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We're very lucky to have you George.
Sent from my iPhone
On Oct 20, 2012, at 9:13 PM, Michael Connolly <crufone at comcast.net> wrote:
>
>
> George,
>
> Thanks for the helpful tips.
>
> Michael
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
>
>
> From: "George Dinwiddie" <gdinwiddie at alberg30.org>
> To: "Alberg 30 Public List -- open to all" <public-list at lists.alberg30.org>
> Sent: Saturday, October 20, 2012 12:33:05 PM
> Subject: Re: [Public-List] Current Example of problem of not changing the Subject Line
>
> Michael,
>
> On 10/20/12 9:48 AM, Michael Connolly wrote:
>>
>>
>> George Wrote,
>> I find results for circumnavigators searching the message archives,
>> either at http://alberg30.org/public-list or in the google search box on
>> the pages of http://alberg30.org Neither give the results of today's
>> emails, because the indexing is only run once a day and Google doesn't
>> index the site continuously, either.
>>
>>
>>
>> For instance if someone were to search the Alberg 30 Web site for
>> Circumnavigations and the site listed this current dialog the
>> searcher would view a bunch of off topic conversations about Web Site
>> listserv's vs Forums ...................... not germane or helpful to
>> their search.
>
> When you search the archives using the built-in search capability, it
> lists the results by how well it matches the search term(s), not by just
> the subject line. See
> http://lists.alberg30.org/mmsearch.cgi/public-list-alberg30.org?config=public-list-alberg30.org&restrict=&exclude=&method=or&format=long&sort=score&words=circumnavigations+circumnavigator+circumnavigation+circumnavigators
> for an example of the results.
>
> You get similar results when using the Google search of the whole site:
> http://alberg30.org/searchResults.html?q=circumnavigations This searches
> both web pages and the email archives, together.
>
> When you click through to a message, you can click "thread" to see the
> message in context with others.
>
> - George
>
> --
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> When I remember bygone days George Dinwiddie
> I think how evening follows morn; gdinwiddie at alberg30.org
> So many I loved were not yet dead, http://www.Alberg30.org
> So many I love were not yet born. also see:
> 'The Middle' by Ogden Nash http://idiacomputing.com
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>
>
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Message: 5
Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2012 13:28:56 +0000 (UTC)
From: Michael Connolly <crufone at comcast.net>
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Subject: Re: [Public-List] Circumnavigations; Entry in CBAA Handbook?
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Hi John,
My view might be a bit more simplistic. The CBAA Handbook has a few pages dedicated to those who have taken Blue Water Cruises. To my knowledge these entries are not defined nor are they 'checked out' for accuracy or verification. My thought was to expand this concept a bit to list those who have sailed their A-30's around the globe. I didn't think about verifying the truth of the details or including a specific definition of 'circumnavigation'. I would have contacted each one of the skippers for the dates and perhaps the direction they took. I expected to take their word as the truth.
?
But if in doing so I am actually doing a disservice to those who by some 'universally accepted definition' actually did a 'circumnavigation' then?must I rethink the ?whole thing? My thought was to memorialize those three skippers who by their own admission sailed their A-30 around the globe by including a separate listing for them in the CBAA Handbook. Future readers of the Handbook while flipping through the pages would see the names of those skippers who sailed that far and think to themselves, Wow these boats must be that seaworthy and how cool is that, what a trip that must have been ..............Besides these skippers have contributed more to the CBAA than having accomplished the trip, they have in several cases contributed significant input?toward the routine upgrades all owners apply to their boats to make them safer and even more seaworthy.
?
Perhaps my?proposal of this entry into the CBAA Handbook requires a survey to determine if the idea is worthy and to define exactly how it should be accomplished. I was blindsided by the politics of the proposal. Sorry that I was so naive. How would you suggest I proceed?
Michael #133
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From: "John Riley" <jriley at dsbscience.com>
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Sent: Friday, October 19, 2012 3:43:31 PM
Subject: Re: [Public-List] Circumnavigations
Circumnavigation is indeed an accomplishment, but defining it as such is
to a point arbitrary.
Stripped to it's basics, such a trip can be nothing more than a series
of shorter blue water voyages strung together. ?If a person crosses the
Atlantic Ocean 20 times, have they really accomplished less than a
circumnavigator?
Technically, a circumnavigation much touch antipodal points. ?If a trip
crosses all lines of longitude, every ocean, encompasses a "sufficient"
number of nautical miles to have gone all the way around, but does not
touch diametrically opposite points, it's not the true circle. ?Do such
skippers accomplish less?
Are you talking about "non-stop" circumnavigators, solo
circumnavigators, solo-non-stop, etc? ?Do we need special sections to
delineate these different "levels" of the accomplishment?
Food for thought...
John
On 10/19/2012 01:57 PM, Michael Connolly wrote:
>
> George,
>
> I honestly believe that these are pretty special owners/skippers and should have a separate section in our Handbook memorializing their accomplishment. Can you pass this idea onto the Officers of the Association for consideration of this proposal?
>
> Michael
>
>
>
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S/V Gaelic Sea
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