[Public-List] Stern squat.

[Gordon Laco]

I think the Odyssey had the fractional rig and denser ballast?  It would
make sense that Alberg would modify something for the new project which he
already considered a success.


On 15/02/13 11:24 AM, "Jason S" <mpcylinderheads at gmail.com> wrote:

> I typed it into Google and I guess I read it on alberg30.org....
> Seems our boats were based off a similar designed boat called the Odyssey
> which was designed for heavy weather of SF bay and the pacific.....by Carl
> Alberg
> On Feb 15, 2013 11:00 AM, "Gordon Laco" <mainstay at csolve.net> wrote:
> 
>> Sorry, no basis for that one.
>> 
>> Actually they were designed for the light air in Western Lake Ontario....
>> And that's partly why the less dense iron ballast seemed acceptable.  The
>> loss of stiffness due slightly higher centre of gravity didn't seem to
>> matter so much...
>> 
>> G
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On 15/02/13 10:58 AM, "Jason S" <mpcylinderheads at gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> What is the story with the A30 and San Fransisco bay? I thought I read
>>> somewhere where it was based off or designed for SF bay.......just
>> curious
>>> On Feb 15, 2013 10:51 AM, "Gordon Laco" <mainstay at csolve.net> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Hi -
>>>> 
>>>> Hansen and Alberg collaborated on the design at the request of the
>> Canadian
>>>> Folkboat Association based in Toronto, who wanted a larger boat than the
>>>> Folkboat.  However, the part about the engine is partly true; the boat
>> was
>>>> designed for an engine, but the Grey Marine and Atomic IV is somewhat
>>>> larger
>>>> and heavier than Alberg might have had in mind. The ballast story is
>> true;
>>>> iron is much cheaper and that's why we got it.  Folkboats use iron, and
>>>> Kurt
>>>> was comfortable with it.
>>>> 
>>>> Gord #426 Surprise
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On 15/02/13 10:45 AM, "David Gilbert" <bigkanu at rogers.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Big Kanu is # 620 and sports a liner; one of the newer ones if you can
>>>>> call a boat built in 1977 "newer". I have heard that Carl Alberg
>>>>> designed the 30 at the request of some sailors in the Chesapeake Bay
>>>>> and that it was designed without an engine. Kurt Hansen, being smart
>>>>> enough to recognize the potential, installed an engine without
>>>>> altering the ballast - ergo, she squats. Last year at launch, well
>>>>> before the mast was reinstalled, I had members come to me in a panic
>>>>> because they thought the boat was taking on water.
>>>>> David
>>>>> On 14-Feb-13, at 11:27 PM, Jeremy Brown wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>> As I finish up some projects and spend more time actually relaxing
>>>>>> on the boat I'm noticing some things that bug me that I would like
>>>>>> to fix soon.   One of the biggest is the squat at the stern.  While
>>>>>> I do need to empty the aft lockers, and currently have nothing up
>>>>>> front, it seems to me that it squats a bit even when totally empty.
>>>>>> One thing I have noticed is that the mast is slid as far it will go
>>>>>> aft on it's bolts.  Could I move it forward?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Has anybody added permanent weight up forward?  I have a Yanmar
>>>>>> 2GM20F, and tank under the cockpit sole, as well as the port locker
>>>>>> containing my house battery bank, even with empty lockers she sits a
>>>>>> little bit heavy aft.
>>>>>> I'm thinking either poured in place concrete(broken up into smaller
>>>>>> sections with 3/8$ foam, with a hard plastic layer on top of 1/2"
>>>>>> closed cell foam to make it easy to remove if needed, and to protect
>>>>>> the hull, or lead(shot in bags).
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I'd like to get the bow down a couple inches, it's not the end of
>>>>>> the world if I can't but it does bug me a fair bit.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Jeremy
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