[Public-List] Stern squat.

Gordon Laco mainstay at csolve.net
Fri Feb 15 09:07:12 PST 2013


We used to carry the tank around full for that purpose; but we've got the
old leaky top plate issue, so until I resolve that it's empty again....it
leaked when the boat was heeled over. Fixing the top of the tank is on the
list.  

Gord Surprise #426


On 15/02/13 11:57 AM, "Mike Lehman" <sail_505 at hotmail.com> wrote:

> Why not just fill the water tank - 30 gallons at 8lb/gal is 240 lbs...and it
> is below the water line. You don't have to drink it.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ~~~_/)_/)~~ Mike Lehman ~~_/)~~~
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Gordon Laco
> Sent: Friday, February 15, 2013 11:31 AM
> To: j_l_brown ; Alberg 30 Public List -- open to all
> Subject: Re: [Public-List] Stern squat.
> 
> Hello -
> 
> I feel awkward recommending trim ballast...putting weight toward the ends of
> the boat is so against text-book principals.
> 
> But with regard to the chain up forward; it's never moved.  It lays in a
> compact pile and even pitching in a head sea hasn't stirred so far as we can
> tell.  I reckon that potentially it could, but it hasn't.
> 
> We did have a tangle up once that we figure was caused by a pile of the
> chain which formed toppling over.  We didn't hear it happen but the result
> was that it wouldn't feed out until we'd sorted things out.
> 
> Gord #426 Surprise
> 
> 
> On 15/02/13 11:18 AM, "j_l_brown" <j_l_brown at shaw.ca> wrote:
> 
>> 
> How were the ingots secured?  I'm a bit cautious of damaging the hull.
> 
> With
>> batteries, ice box and holding tank all port, I have empty unused space to
>> starboard, and weight there could possibly help trim the boat fore and aft
>> and
>> side to side as well.
> I also have space between the traditional anchor locker
>> bulkhead, and the half bulkhead I added forward.
> 
> 
> Lead could be ok too, I was
>> looking at bagged lead shot as one option(no hard edges, like soft weights
>> for
>> divers).
> Would it need to be secured, any more than anchor chain is?
> 
> Concrete
>> is cheap, less toxic and I could add steel punchings and essentially I'd
>> have
>> concrete in small(30lb) ingots, formed to the hull, isolated from it.
> If cost
>> were no object, I'd do the same as the concrete idea, but cast the chunks
>> in
>> bronze.
> 
> Maybe I could use a whole pile of galvanized chain (on sale it is
>> cheaper than lead per lb) there instead as spares and ballast.
> I suspect it
>> would be noisy though.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Sent from Samsung Mobile
> 
> -------- Original
>> message --------
> From: David Tessier <dfjtessier at hotmail.com>
> Date:
> To:
>> Alberg 30 List Start thread <public-list at lists.alberg30.org>
> Subject:
>> [Public-List] Stern squat.
> 
> 
> I looked at a certain pre-liner one-owner (if
>> you count father, then son as one owner) A30 with turquoise topsides and a
>> short-footed mainsail that lived up near Gord Laco on The Georgian Bay, as
>> it
>> is called on the old charts.  She had had a long  and perhaps
>> distinguished
>> racing career in the Toronto area.  During the several hours I enjoyed
>> crawling all over her under her winter cover, I found a tidy little pile
>> of
>> lead (Pb) ingots up under the Vee berth, which I was told helped her
>> racing
>> trim whilst, I assumed, meeting the applicable one design rules.
> I thought
>> that I read somewhere that the squat stern trim of the A30 resulted from a
>> misunderstanding (!) between the designer and the builder, along the lines
>> of
>> the rig (not fractional), size of mainsail (over large) and the use of
>> iron
>> (not lead) ballast.  Who knows!  I love our mystery lady all the same.
> I
>> suppose that my 90' of anchor chain in the bow is helping our fore/aft
>> trim,
>> perhaps partly compensating for my 205 lb weight in the cockpit.  And I
>> have
>> photographic evidence from MariAnne cove anchorage that shifting myself
>> from
>> cockpit to bow makes a discernable difference in trim, judging from the
>> boot
>> stripe.
> Cheers,David TROIS BOULEAUX #319.
> P.S.: Anyone chartered a sailboat in
>> the Whitsundays?  We have lined one up for a week in March and would
>> welcome
>> any advice.
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