[Public-List] Stern squat.

Glennb brooks.glenn at comcast.net
Fri Feb 15 09:11:25 PST 2013 

Anybody know a way to clean up the water tank well enough to use it for potable water?   I tried cleaning the grunge out of the inside by hand, by cutting a hole in the aft end under the little seat between berths, but couldnt reach the top or edges of the tank very well. so now use it to store chain, but want to add additional water storage again for next summer.

Glenn
Dolce

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On Feb 15, 2013, at 9:07 AM, Gordon Laco <mainstay at csolve.net> wrote:

> We used to carry the tank around full for that purpose; but we've got the
> old leaky top plate issue, so until I resolve that it's empty again....it
> leaked when the boat was heeled over. Fixing the top of the tank is on the
> list.  
> 
> Gord Surprise #426
> 
> 
> On 15/02/13 11:57 AM, "Mike Lehman" <sail_505 at hotmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> Why not just fill the water tank - 30 gallons at 8lb/gal is 240 lbs...and it
>> is below the water line. You don't have to drink it.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> ~~~_/)_/)~~ Mike Lehman ~~_/)~~~
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Gordon Laco
>> Sent: Friday, February 15, 2013 11:31 AM
>> To: j_l_brown ; Alberg 30 Public List -- open to all
>> Subject: Re: [Public-List] Stern squat.
>> 
>> Hello -
>> 
>> I feel awkward recommending trim ballast...putting weight toward the ends of
>> the boat is so against text-book principals.
>> 
>> But with regard to the chain up forward; it's never moved.  It lays in a
>> compact pile and even pitching in a head sea hasn't stirred so far as we can
>> tell.  I reckon that potentially it could, but it hasn't.
>> 
>> We did have a tangle up once that we figure was caused by a pile of the
>> chain which formed toppling over.  We didn't hear it happen but the result
>> was that it wouldn't feed out until we'd sorted things out.
>> 
>> Gord #426 Surprise
>> 
>> 
>> On 15/02/13 11:18 AM, "j_l_brown" <j_l_brown at shaw.ca> wrote:
>> 
>>> 
>> How were the ingots secured?  I'm a bit cautious of damaging the hull.
>> 
>> With
>>> batteries, ice box and holding tank all port, I have empty unused space to
>>> starboard, and weight there could possibly help trim the boat fore and aft
>>> and
>>> side to side as well.
>> I also have space between the traditional anchor locker
>>> bulkhead, and the half bulkhead I added forward.
>> 
>> 
>> Lead could be ok too, I was
>>> looking at bagged lead shot as one option(no hard edges, like soft weights
>>> for
>>> divers).
>> Would it need to be secured, any more than anchor chain is?
>> 
>> Concrete
>>> is cheap, less toxic and I could add steel punchings and essentially I'd
>>> have
>>> concrete in small(30lb) ingots, formed to the hull, isolated from it.
>> If cost
>>> were no object, I'd do the same as the concrete idea, but cast the chunks
>>> in
>>> bronze.
>> 
>> Maybe I could use a whole pile of galvanized chain (on sale it is
>>> cheaper than lead per lb) there instead as spares and ballast.
>> I suspect it
>>> would be noisy though.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from Samsung Mobile
>> 
>> -------- Original
>>> message --------
>> From: David Tessier <dfjtessier at hotmail.com>
>> Date:
>> To:
>>> Alberg 30 List Start thread <public-list at lists.alberg30.org>
>> Subject:
>>> [Public-List] Stern squat.
>> 
>> 
>> I looked at a certain pre-liner one-owner (if
>>> you count father, then son as one owner) A30 with turquoise topsides and a
>>> short-footed mainsail that lived up near Gord Laco on The Georgian Bay, as
>>> it
>>> is called on the old charts.  She had had a long  and perhaps
>>> distinguished
>>> racing career in the Toronto area.  During the several hours I enjoyed
>>> crawling all over her under her winter cover, I found a tidy little pile
>>> of
>>> lead (Pb) ingots up under the Vee berth, which I was told helped her
>>> racing
>>> trim whilst, I assumed, meeting the applicable one design rules.
>> I thought
>>> that I read somewhere that the squat stern trim of the A30 resulted from a
>>> misunderstanding (!) between the designer and the builder, along the lines
>>> of
>>> the rig (not fractional), size of mainsail (over large) and the use of
>>> iron
>>> (not lead) ballast.  Who knows!  I love our mystery lady all the same.
>> I
>>> suppose that my 90' of anchor chain in the bow is helping our fore/aft
>>> trim,
>>> perhaps partly compensating for my 205 lb weight in the cockpit.  And I
>>> have
>>> photographic evidence from MariAnne cove anchorage that shifting myself
>>> from
>>> cockpit to bow makes a discernable difference in trim, judging from the
>>> boot
>>> stripe.
>> Cheers,David TROIS BOULEAUX #319.
>> P.S.: Anyone chartered a sailboat in
>>> the Whitsundays?  We have lined one up for a week in March and would
>>> welcome
>>> any advice.
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