[Public-List] Stern squat.

George Dinwiddie gdinwiddie at alberg30.org
Fri Feb 15 12:06:23 PST 2013 

And while you've got the cover off, paint the insides of the tank with 
epoxy.

On 2/15/13 12:19 PM, Mike Lehman wrote:
> Drill out the rivets, remove the aluminum cover, make a new cover from
> G10 epoxy sheet, install with screws and 5200...no more leaks and you
> can drink the water without aluminum bits and white powder flakes in
> your coffee! Install a charcoal filter too!
>
>
>
>
> ~~~_/)_/)~~ Mike Lehman ~~_/)~~~
> -----Original Message----- From: Gordon Laco
> Sent: Friday, February 15, 2013 12:07 PM
> To: Alberg 30 Public List -- open to all
> Subject: Re: [Public-List] Stern squat.
>
> We used to carry the tank around full for that purpose; but we've got the
> old leaky top plate issue, so until I resolve that it's empty again....it
> leaked when the boat was heeled over. Fixing the top of the tank is on the
> list.
>
> Gord Surprise #426
>
>
> On 15/02/13 11:57 AM, "Mike Lehman" <sail_505 at hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Why not just fill the water tank - 30 gallons at 8lb/gal is 240
>> lbs...and it
>> is below the water line. You don't have to drink it.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ~~~_/)_/)~~ Mike Lehman ~~_/)~~~
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Gordon Laco
>> Sent: Friday, February 15, 2013 11:31 AM
>> To: j_l_brown ; Alberg 30 Public List -- open to all
>> Subject: Re: [Public-List] Stern squat.
>>
>> Hello -
>>
>> I feel awkward recommending trim ballast...putting weight toward the
>> ends of
>> the boat is so against text-book principals.
>>
>> But with regard to the chain up forward; it's never moved.  It lays in a
>> compact pile and even pitching in a head sea hasn't stirred so far as
>> we can
>> tell.  I reckon that potentially it could, but it hasn't.
>>
>> We did have a tangle up once that we figure was caused by a pile of the
>> chain which formed toppling over.  We didn't hear it happen but the
>> result
>> was that it wouldn't feed out until we'd sorted things out.
>>
>> Gord #426 Surprise
>>
>>
>> On 15/02/13 11:18 AM, "j_l_brown" <j_l_brown at shaw.ca> wrote:
>>
>>>
>> How were the ingots secured?  I'm a bit cautious of damaging the hull.
>>
>> With
>>> batteries, ice box and holding tank all port, I have empty unused
>>> space to
>>> starboard, and weight there could possibly help trim the boat fore
>>> and aft
>>> and
>>> side to side as well.
>> I also have space between the traditional anchor locker
>>> bulkhead, and the half bulkhead I added forward.
>>
>>
>> Lead could be ok too, I was
>>> looking at bagged lead shot as one option(no hard edges, like soft
>>> weights
>>> for
>>> divers).
>> Would it need to be secured, any more than anchor chain is?
>>
>> Concrete
>>> is cheap, less toxic and I could add steel punchings and essentially I'd
>>> have
>>> concrete in small(30lb) ingots, formed to the hull, isolated from it.
>> If cost
>>> were no object, I'd do the same as the concrete idea, but cast the
>>> chunks
>>> in
>>> bronze.
>>
>> Maybe I could use a whole pile of galvanized chain (on sale it is
>>> cheaper than lead per lb) there instead as spares and ballast.
>> I suspect it
>>> would be noisy though.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Sent from Samsung Mobile
>>
>> -------- Original
>>> message --------
>> From: David Tessier <dfjtessier at hotmail.com>
>> Date:
>> To:
>>> Alberg 30 List Start thread <public-list at lists.alberg30.org>
>> Subject:
>>> [Public-List] Stern squat.
>>
>>
>> I looked at a certain pre-liner one-owner (if
>>> you count father, then son as one owner) A30 with turquoise topsides
>>> and a
>>> short-footed mainsail that lived up near Gord Laco on The Georgian
>>> Bay, as
>>> it
>>> is called on the old charts.  She had had a long  and perhaps
>>> distinguished
>>> racing career in the Toronto area.  During the several hours I enjoyed
>>> crawling all over her under her winter cover, I found a tidy little pile
>>> of
>>> lead (Pb) ingots up under the Vee berth, which I was told helped her
>>> racing
>>> trim whilst, I assumed, meeting the applicable one design rules.
>> I thought
>>> that I read somewhere that the squat stern trim of the A30 resulted
>>> from a
>>> misunderstanding (!) between the designer and the builder, along the
>>> lines
>>> of
>>> the rig (not fractional), size of mainsail (over large) and the use of
>>> iron
>>> (not lead) ballast.  Who knows!  I love our mystery lady all the same.
>> I
>>> suppose that my 90' of anchor chain in the bow is helping our fore/aft
>>> trim,
>>> perhaps partly compensating for my 205 lb weight in the cockpit.  And I
>>> have
>>> photographic evidence from MariAnne cove anchorage that shifting myself
>>> from
>>> cockpit to bow makes a discernable difference in trim, judging from the
>>> boot
>>> stripe.
>> Cheers,David TROIS BOULEAUX #319.
>> P.S.: Anyone chartered a sailboat in
>>> the Whitsundays?  We have lined one up for a week in March and would
>>> welcome
>>> any advice.
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