[Public-List] Anchor windlass question

Sun Feb 24 17:02:08 PST 2013

Ahoy Glenn,

I set off for the South Pacific but turned back to Oahu - long story.  At
the time I was sailing my Pearson 35, also a short waterline (25 feet),
with 250 feet of chain that I added in SF before sailing to Hawaii.  My
plan was to sail to Alaska where, with the rocks, chain is best.

While chain would be very heavy on my Alberg 30, were I to head back to the
Pacific on the boat (I won't, purchased a Bayfield 36 in November that I
will take to the Pacific), I would find a way to lead the bulk of the chain
back to the center of the boat.

Sorry if I offended, my point was to suggest "mowing down coral" with chain
is not a good idea.  Because you lived on Oahu, you understand.

Just my dos centavos,

Dennis
s/v Ferrity

On Sat, Feb 23, 2013 at 8:33 PM, Glennb <brooks.glenn at comcast.net> wrote:

> Hi Dennis,
>
> Agreed,  we lived on oahu for seven years but didnt do much sailing there.
>  Only a little commercial work, which was mostly tourism day sailing
> related, and back to berth again.
>
> Did you go deeper into the Pacific, and what did you find optimum for
> carrying chain?
>
> Thanks,
> Glenn
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On Feb 23, 2013, at 4:14 PM, "Dennis K. Biby" <sailor at aweigh.com> wrote:
>
> > Ahoy Glenn,
> >
> > "So an all chain rode is essential for coral bottoms, even around
> Hawaii."
> > Yes and no.  There are few places shallow enough to anchor in Hawaii due
> > to the volcanic formation of the islands.
> >
> > I sailed about the islands for four years and the best advice is to "save
> > the coral" and find a sandy spot to anchor.  The water is clear enough to
> > see the bottom on Lanai, Molokai, clear areas of Hawaii, not so much on
> > Maui and Oahu.
> >
> > Dennis
> > s/v Ferrity
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Feb 22, 2013 at 4:07 PM, Glennb <brooks.glenn at comcast.net>
> wrote:
> >
> >> Thanks Michael,
> >>
> >> Yep,  i need to check on the gypsy, although I am leaning in the
> direction
> >> of on an electric windlass and washdown, as several other comments this
> AM
> >> have suggested.
> >>
> >> Iam on the west coast and determined to go out into the Pacific,
> starting
> >> next summer/ fall cruising season once hurricane season is over.  So an
> all
> >> chain rode is essential for coral bottoms, even around Hawaii.  I dont
> like
> >> the idea of weight in the bow, and so plan to store the chain under the
> >> floor boards in the main cabin for passage making and move it forward as
> >> needed.  The passages in the pacific are rather long, 30 days mexico to
> >> Marquesas, 25 days Seattle to Maui for example in an A30, so moving the
> >> chain around a few times doesnt seem to onerous.
> >>
> >> I am planning on adding a 15 kg Rocna plow and a 40# fisherman (halibut
> >> ground line anchor with folding stock)  maybe get rid off my existing
> >> danforth.  I carried a fisherman in Alaska for a couple of decades and
> love
> >> the way they set on hard bottoms and  cut through grass and weed.
> >>
> >> I do have a SS bow roller but havnt mounted it yet, as still looking for
> >> something more substantial AND something that will fit the stem head
> >> casting better, without breaking the bank.
> >>
> >> Thanks for the info!
> >>
> >> Glenn
> >> Dolce 318
> >>
> >> Sent from my iPad
> >>
> >> On Feb 22, 2013, at 3:09 AM, Michael <dickdurk at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> You are a brave person tendering that question lol.
> >>> 1st thing that leaps to mind: you are sure 5/16 BBB chain matches the
> >> gypsy heads on your new purchases?
> >>> 2nd thing: 200' 5/16 is a lot of weight for the poor old Albergs 21'
> >> waterline. You are planning on anchoring in a lot of coral? Just for
> >> starters, that combination has become poo-poo, environmentally.
> >>>
> >>> I'm using about a 25lb. Danforth w/18' of 5/16 (I think). A bow roller
> >> is essential, mounted on a bow pulpet of some kind preferable (I'm still
> >> working on that part of Checkmate). Some kind of pressure washer for the
> >> chain will be needed. It's just barely OK swishing my 18' around before
> >> coming on deck. Those links pick up a lot of bottom goop.  Cooties will
> end
> >> up in the bottom of your chain locker quickly.
> >>>
> >>> If your heart is set on the chain, I think my Dad has what you are
> >> looking for, well galvinized looks hardly used (and I don't think it
> was)
> >> that is looking for a good home.  Are you in the Annapolis area?
> >>>
> >>> I think I need to put together a flotsam and jetsom list of boat
> thingys
> >> that have accumulated over the years...
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> MichaelGrosh
> >>> #220
> >>>
> >>> On 2/22/2013 2:59 AM, Glennb wrote:
> >>> <snip>
> >>>>
> >>>> Assuming I don't go  off and buy an A37, What in the world should I
> >>>> look for in terms of size and pulling capacity for an A30 windless?
> >>>>
> >>>> Thanks much,
> >>>>
> >>>> Glenn dolce 318
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>>
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