[Public-List] Public-List Digest......Rudder Shoe
Jason S
mpcylinderheads at gmail.com
Mon Feb 25 20:27:31 PST 2013
Nice webpage clay, wish we could have met up in SF. Fair winds out there
and keep us posted
On Feb 25, 2013 7:43 PM, "Clayton Zimmerman" <cb_zimmerman at hotmail.com>
wrote:
>
> Regarding the rudder shoe.........I too was on the list and lost track.
> Time came to launch Tanager and so this was my solution: hopefully the pic
> shows up. I used a micrometer and took the measurement to my local machine
> shop. He bored out the existing rudder shoe and pressed in this teflon
> washer (Came with an extra). I know Kirk on Salsa has posted about using
> brass? Tanager and I just made it down the coast from San Francisco to
> Santa Barbara and it's still working great! I'll post updates.
> ClaytonS/V Tanagerwww.optimisticwanderings.tumblr.com
>
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> > Today's Topics:
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> > 1. Re: Anchor windlass question (Dennis K. Biby)
> > 2. Re: Anchor windlass question (Glennb)
> > 3. Re: Looking for KC 508 (Kris Coward)
> > 4. Rudder Shoe (James Allocco)
> > 5. Re: Rudder Shoe (Manza, John CIV OSD POLICY)
> >
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> > ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 1
> > Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2013 19:14:59 -0500
> > From: "Dennis K. Biby" <sailor at aweigh.com>
> > To: Alberg 30 Public List -- open to all
> > <public-list at lists.alberg30.org>
> > Subject: Re: [Public-List] Anchor windlass question
> > Message-ID:
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> >
> > Ahoy Glenn,
> >
> > "So an all chain rode is essential for coral bottoms, even around
> Hawaii."
> > Yes and no. There are few places shallow enough to anchor in Hawaii due
> > to the volcanic formation of the islands.
> >
> > I sailed about the islands for four years and the best advice is to "save
> > the coral" and find a sandy spot to anchor. The water is clear enough to
> > see the bottom on Lanai, Molokai, clear areas of Hawaii, not so much on
> > Maui and Oahu.
> >
> > Dennis
> > s/v Ferrity
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Feb 22, 2013 at 4:07 PM, Glennb <brooks.glenn at comcast.net>
> wrote:
> >
> > > Thanks Michael,
> > >
> > > Yep, i need to check on the gypsy, although I am leaning in the
> direction
> > > of on an electric windlass and washdown, as several other comments
> this AM
> > > have suggested.
> > >
> > > Iam on the west coast and determined to go out into the Pacific,
> starting
> > > next summer/ fall cruising season once hurricane season is over. So
> an all
> > > chain rode is essential for coral bottoms, even around Hawaii. I dont
> like
> > > the idea of weight in the bow, and so plan to store the chain under the
> > > floor boards in the main cabin for passage making and move it forward
> as
> > > needed. The passages in the pacific are rather long, 30 days mexico to
> > > Marquesas, 25 days Seattle to Maui for example in an A30, so moving the
> > > chain around a few times doesnt seem to onerous.
> > >
> > > I am planning on adding a 15 kg Rocna plow and a 40# fisherman (halibut
> > > ground line anchor with folding stock) maybe get rid off my existing
> > > danforth. I carried a fisherman in Alaska for a couple of decades and
> love
> > > the way they set on hard bottoms and cut through grass and weed.
> > >
> > > I do have a SS bow roller but havnt mounted it yet, as still looking
> for
> > > something more substantial AND something that will fit the stem head
> > > casting better, without breaking the bank.
> > >
> > > Thanks for the info!
> > >
> > > Glenn
> > > Dolce 318
> > >
> > > Sent from my iPad
> > >
> > > On Feb 22, 2013, at 3:09 AM, Michael <dickdurk at gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > You are a brave person tendering that question lol.
> > > > 1st thing that leaps to mind: you are sure 5/16 BBB chain matches the
> > > gypsy heads on your new purchases?
> > > > 2nd thing: 200' 5/16 is a lot of weight for the poor old Albergs 21'
> > > waterline. You are planning on anchoring in a lot of coral? Just for
> > > starters, that combination has become poo-poo, environmentally.
> > > >
> > > > I'm using about a 25lb. Danforth w/18' of 5/16 (I think). A bow
> roller
> > > is essential, mounted on a bow pulpet of some kind preferable (I'm
> still
> > > working on that part of Checkmate). Some kind of pressure washer for
> the
> > > chain will be needed. It's just barely OK swishing my 18' around before
> > > coming on deck. Those links pick up a lot of bottom goop. Cooties
> will end
> > > up in the bottom of your chain locker quickly.
> > > >
> > > > If your heart is set on the chain, I think my Dad has what you are
> > > looking for, well galvinized looks hardly used (and I don't think it
> was)
> > > that is looking for a good home. Are you in the Annapolis area?
> > > >
> > > > I think I need to put together a flotsam and jetsom list of boat
> thingys
> > > that have accumulated over the years...
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > MichaelGrosh
> > > > #220
> > > >
> > > > On 2/22/2013 2:59 AM, Glennb wrote:
> > > > <snip>
> > > >>
> > > >> Assuming I don't go off and buy an A37, What in the world should I
> > > >> look for in terms of size and pulling capacity for an A30 windless?
> > > >>
> > > >> Thanks much,
> > > >>
> > > >> Glenn dolce 318
> > > >>
> > > >
> > > >
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> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 2
> > Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2013 17:33:14 -0800
> > From: Glennb <brooks.glenn at comcast.net>
> > To: Alberg 30 Public List -- open to all
> > <public-list at lists.alberg30.org>
> > Subject: Re: [Public-List] Anchor windlass question
> > Message-ID: <F18ACB92-5835-458B-9165-9D2783F28487 at comcast.net>
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> >
> > Hi Dennis,
> >
> > Agreed, we lived on oahu for seven years but didnt do much sailing
> there. Only a little commercial work, which was mostly tourism day sailing
> related, and back to berth again.
> >
> > Did you go deeper into the Pacific, and what did you find optimum for
> carrying chain?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Glenn
> >
> > Sent from my iPad
> >
> > On Feb 23, 2013, at 4:14 PM, "Dennis K. Biby" <sailor at aweigh.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Ahoy Glenn,
> > >
> > > "So an all chain rode is essential for coral bottoms, even around
> Hawaii."
> > > Yes and no. There are few places shallow enough to anchor in Hawaii
> due
> > > to the volcanic formation of the islands.
> > >
> > > I sailed about the islands for four years and the best advice is to
> "save
> > > the coral" and find a sandy spot to anchor. The water is clear enough
> to
> > > see the bottom on Lanai, Molokai, clear areas of Hawaii, not so much on
> > > Maui and Oahu.
> > >
> > > Dennis
> > > s/v Ferrity
> > >
> > >
> > > On Fri, Feb 22, 2013 at 4:07 PM, Glennb <brooks.glenn at comcast.net>
> wrote:
> > >
> > >> Thanks Michael,
> > >>
> > >> Yep, i need to check on the gypsy, although I am leaning in the
> direction
> > >> of on an electric windlass and washdown, as several other comments
> this AM
> > >> have suggested.
> > >>
> > >> Iam on the west coast and determined to go out into the Pacific,
> starting
> > >> next summer/ fall cruising season once hurricane season is over. So
> an all
> > >> chain rode is essential for coral bottoms, even around Hawaii. I
> dont like
> > >> the idea of weight in the bow, and so plan to store the chain under
> the
> > >> floor boards in the main cabin for passage making and move it forward
> as
> > >> needed. The passages in the pacific are rather long, 30 days mexico
> to
> > >> Marquesas, 25 days Seattle to Maui for example in an A30, so moving
> the
> > >> chain around a few times doesnt seem to onerous.
> > >>
> > >> I am planning on adding a 15 kg Rocna plow and a 40# fisherman
> (halibut
> > >> ground line anchor with folding stock) maybe get rid off my existing
> > >> danforth. I carried a fisherman in Alaska for a couple of decades
> and love
> > >> the way they set on hard bottoms and cut through grass and weed.
> > >>
> > >> I do have a SS bow roller but havnt mounted it yet, as still looking
> for
> > >> something more substantial AND something that will fit the stem head
> > >> casting better, without breaking the bank.
> > >>
> > >> Thanks for the info!
> > >>
> > >> Glenn
> > >> Dolce 318
> > >>
> > >> Sent from my iPad
> > >>
> > >> On Feb 22, 2013, at 3:09 AM, Michael <dickdurk at gmail.com> wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> You are a brave person tendering that question lol.
> > >>> 1st thing that leaps to mind: you are sure 5/16 BBB chain matches the
> > >> gypsy heads on your new purchases?
> > >>> 2nd thing: 200' 5/16 is a lot of weight for the poor old Albergs 21'
> > >> waterline. You are planning on anchoring in a lot of coral? Just for
> > >> starters, that combination has become poo-poo, environmentally.
> > >>>
> > >>> I'm using about a 25lb. Danforth w/18' of 5/16 (I think). A bow
> roller
> > >> is essential, mounted on a bow pulpet of some kind preferable (I'm
> still
> > >> working on that part of Checkmate). Some kind of pressure washer for
> the
> > >> chain will be needed. It's just barely OK swishing my 18' around
> before
> > >> coming on deck. Those links pick up a lot of bottom goop. Cooties
> will end
> > >> up in the bottom of your chain locker quickly.
> > >>>
> > >>> If your heart is set on the chain, I think my Dad has what you are
> > >> looking for, well galvinized looks hardly used (and I don't think it
> was)
> > >> that is looking for a good home. Are you in the Annapolis area?
> > >>>
> > >>> I think I need to put together a flotsam and jetsom list of boat
> thingys
> > >> that have accumulated over the years...
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> MichaelGrosh
> > >>> #220
> > >>>
> > >>> On 2/22/2013 2:59 AM, Glennb wrote:
> > >>> <snip>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Assuming I don't go off and buy an A37, What in the world should I
> > >>>> look for in terms of size and pulling capacity for an A30 windless?
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Thanks much,
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Glenn dolce 318
> > >>>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
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> > ------------------------------
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> > Message: 3
> > Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2013 22:22:26 -0500
> > From: Kris Coward <kris at melon.org>
> > To: Alberg 30 Public List -- open to all
> > <public-list at lists.alberg30.org>
> > Subject: Re: [Public-List] Looking for KC 508
> > Message-ID: <20130224032226.GU6343 at melon.org>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
> >
> > On Sun, Feb 17, 2013 at 05:56:47PM -0500, John Birch wrote:
> > > She was bought by Don Bester who successfully campaigned her out of
> > > QCYC in Toronto until the early- mid 90's. The late legendary Gordon
> > > Proctor skippered her for a while under Bester's ownership. She was
> > > a force to be reckoned with under Bester / Proctor.
> >
> > That'd explain why the name sounded familiar...
> >
> > -K
> >
> > --
> > Kris Coward http://unripe.melon.org/
> > GPG Fingerprint: 2BF3 957D 310A FEEC 4733 830E 21A4 05C7 1FEB 12B3
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 4
> > Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2013 07:13:15 -0600
> > From: James Allocco <jamesallocco at gmail.com>
> > To: Alberg 30 Public List -- open to all
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> > Subject: [Public-List] Rudder Shoe
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> >
> > Fellow Albergers,
> >
> > I have been away for several months with limited email access. Has there
> > been any recent updates about the rudder shoe project?
> >
> > Jim Allocco
> > Barchetta Mia 565
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 5
> > Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2013 13:16:15 +0000
> > From: "Manza, John CIV OSD POLICY" <John.Manza at osd.mil>
> > To: "'public-list at lists.alberg30.org'"
> > <public-list at lists.alberg30.org>
> > Subject: Re: [Public-List] Rudder Shoe
> > Message-ID: <5A4B28A64E9B514B9E88644AA94DDEF3045F798B at RSRCNMEX3>
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> >
> > I have lost track of this too. I asked to be included in the purchase
> several months ago -- but I don't know what happened.
> >
> > John Manza
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: James Allocco [mailto:jamesallocco at gmail.com]
> > Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2013 08:13 AM
> > To: Alberg 30 Public List -- open to all <public-list at lists.alberg30.org
> >
> > Subject: [Public-List] Rudder Shoe
> >
> > Fellow Albergers,
> >
> > I have been away for several months with limited email access. Has there
> > been any recent updates about the rudder shoe project?
> >
> > Jim Allocco
> > Barchetta Mia 565
> > _______________________________________________
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