[Public-List] Public-List Digest......Rudder Shoe
Clayton Zimmerman
cb_zimmerman at hotmail.com
Mon Feb 25 16:43:47 PST 2013
Regarding the rudder shoe.........I too was on the list and lost track. Time came to launch Tanager and so this was my solution: hopefully the pic shows up. I used a micrometer and took the measurement to my local machine shop. He bored out the existing rudder shoe and pressed in this teflon washer (Came with an extra). I know Kirk on Salsa has posted about using brass? Tanager and I just made it down the coast from San Francisco to Santa Barbara and it's still working great! I'll post updates.
ClaytonS/V Tanagerwww.optimisticwanderings.tumblr.com
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> 1. Re: Anchor windlass question (Dennis K. Biby)
> 2. Re: Anchor windlass question (Glennb)
> 3. Re: Looking for KC 508 (Kris Coward)
> 4. Rudder Shoe (James Allocco)
> 5. Re: Rudder Shoe (Manza, John CIV OSD POLICY)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2013 19:14:59 -0500
> From: "Dennis K. Biby" <sailor at aweigh.com>
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> Subject: Re: [Public-List] Anchor windlass question
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> Ahoy Glenn,
>
> "So an all chain rode is essential for coral bottoms, even around Hawaii."
> Yes and no. There are few places shallow enough to anchor in Hawaii due
> to the volcanic formation of the islands.
>
> I sailed about the islands for four years and the best advice is to "save
> the coral" and find a sandy spot to anchor. The water is clear enough to
> see the bottom on Lanai, Molokai, clear areas of Hawaii, not so much on
> Maui and Oahu.
>
> Dennis
> s/v Ferrity
>
>
> On Fri, Feb 22, 2013 at 4:07 PM, Glennb <brooks.glenn at comcast.net> wrote:
>
> > Thanks Michael,
> >
> > Yep, i need to check on the gypsy, although I am leaning in the direction
> > of on an electric windlass and washdown, as several other comments this AM
> > have suggested.
> >
> > Iam on the west coast and determined to go out into the Pacific, starting
> > next summer/ fall cruising season once hurricane season is over. So an all
> > chain rode is essential for coral bottoms, even around Hawaii. I dont like
> > the idea of weight in the bow, and so plan to store the chain under the
> > floor boards in the main cabin for passage making and move it forward as
> > needed. The passages in the pacific are rather long, 30 days mexico to
> > Marquesas, 25 days Seattle to Maui for example in an A30, so moving the
> > chain around a few times doesnt seem to onerous.
> >
> > I am planning on adding a 15 kg Rocna plow and a 40# fisherman (halibut
> > ground line anchor with folding stock) maybe get rid off my existing
> > danforth. I carried a fisherman in Alaska for a couple of decades and love
> > the way they set on hard bottoms and cut through grass and weed.
> >
> > I do have a SS bow roller but havnt mounted it yet, as still looking for
> > something more substantial AND something that will fit the stem head
> > casting better, without breaking the bank.
> >
> > Thanks for the info!
> >
> > Glenn
> > Dolce 318
> >
> > Sent from my iPad
> >
> > On Feb 22, 2013, at 3:09 AM, Michael <dickdurk at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > You are a brave person tendering that question lol.
> > > 1st thing that leaps to mind: you are sure 5/16 BBB chain matches the
> > gypsy heads on your new purchases?
> > > 2nd thing: 200' 5/16 is a lot of weight for the poor old Albergs 21'
> > waterline. You are planning on anchoring in a lot of coral? Just for
> > starters, that combination has become poo-poo, environmentally.
> > >
> > > I'm using about a 25lb. Danforth w/18' of 5/16 (I think). A bow roller
> > is essential, mounted on a bow pulpet of some kind preferable (I'm still
> > working on that part of Checkmate). Some kind of pressure washer for the
> > chain will be needed. It's just barely OK swishing my 18' around before
> > coming on deck. Those links pick up a lot of bottom goop. Cooties will end
> > up in the bottom of your chain locker quickly.
> > >
> > > If your heart is set on the chain, I think my Dad has what you are
> > looking for, well galvinized looks hardly used (and I don't think it was)
> > that is looking for a good home. Are you in the Annapolis area?
> > >
> > > I think I need to put together a flotsam and jetsom list of boat thingys
> > that have accumulated over the years...
> > >
> > >
> > > MichaelGrosh
> > > #220
> > >
> > > On 2/22/2013 2:59 AM, Glennb wrote:
> > > <snip>
> > >>
> > >> Assuming I don't go off and buy an A37, What in the world should I
> > >> look for in terms of size and pulling capacity for an A30 windless?
> > >>
> > >> Thanks much,
> > >>
> > >> Glenn dolce 318
> > >>
> > >
> > >
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> Message: 2
> Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2013 17:33:14 -0800
> From: Glennb <brooks.glenn at comcast.net>
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> Subject: Re: [Public-List] Anchor windlass question
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> Hi Dennis,
>
> Agreed, we lived on oahu for seven years but didnt do much sailing there. Only a little commercial work, which was mostly tourism day sailing related, and back to berth again.
>
> Did you go deeper into the Pacific, and what did you find optimum for carrying chain?
>
> Thanks,
> Glenn
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On Feb 23, 2013, at 4:14 PM, "Dennis K. Biby" <sailor at aweigh.com> wrote:
>
> > Ahoy Glenn,
> >
> > "So an all chain rode is essential for coral bottoms, even around Hawaii."
> > Yes and no. There are few places shallow enough to anchor in Hawaii due
> > to the volcanic formation of the islands.
> >
> > I sailed about the islands for four years and the best advice is to "save
> > the coral" and find a sandy spot to anchor. The water is clear enough to
> > see the bottom on Lanai, Molokai, clear areas of Hawaii, not so much on
> > Maui and Oahu.
> >
> > Dennis
> > s/v Ferrity
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Feb 22, 2013 at 4:07 PM, Glennb <brooks.glenn at comcast.net> wrote:
> >
> >> Thanks Michael,
> >>
> >> Yep, i need to check on the gypsy, although I am leaning in the direction
> >> of on an electric windlass and washdown, as several other comments this AM
> >> have suggested.
> >>
> >> Iam on the west coast and determined to go out into the Pacific, starting
> >> next summer/ fall cruising season once hurricane season is over. So an all
> >> chain rode is essential for coral bottoms, even around Hawaii. I dont like
> >> the idea of weight in the bow, and so plan to store the chain under the
> >> floor boards in the main cabin for passage making and move it forward as
> >> needed. The passages in the pacific are rather long, 30 days mexico to
> >> Marquesas, 25 days Seattle to Maui for example in an A30, so moving the
> >> chain around a few times doesnt seem to onerous.
> >>
> >> I am planning on adding a 15 kg Rocna plow and a 40# fisherman (halibut
> >> ground line anchor with folding stock) maybe get rid off my existing
> >> danforth. I carried a fisherman in Alaska for a couple of decades and love
> >> the way they set on hard bottoms and cut through grass and weed.
> >>
> >> I do have a SS bow roller but havnt mounted it yet, as still looking for
> >> something more substantial AND something that will fit the stem head
> >> casting better, without breaking the bank.
> >>
> >> Thanks for the info!
> >>
> >> Glenn
> >> Dolce 318
> >>
> >> Sent from my iPad
> >>
> >> On Feb 22, 2013, at 3:09 AM, Michael <dickdurk at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> You are a brave person tendering that question lol.
> >>> 1st thing that leaps to mind: you are sure 5/16 BBB chain matches the
> >> gypsy heads on your new purchases?
> >>> 2nd thing: 200' 5/16 is a lot of weight for the poor old Albergs 21'
> >> waterline. You are planning on anchoring in a lot of coral? Just for
> >> starters, that combination has become poo-poo, environmentally.
> >>>
> >>> I'm using about a 25lb. Danforth w/18' of 5/16 (I think). A bow roller
> >> is essential, mounted on a bow pulpet of some kind preferable (I'm still
> >> working on that part of Checkmate). Some kind of pressure washer for the
> >> chain will be needed. It's just barely OK swishing my 18' around before
> >> coming on deck. Those links pick up a lot of bottom goop. Cooties will end
> >> up in the bottom of your chain locker quickly.
> >>>
> >>> If your heart is set on the chain, I think my Dad has what you are
> >> looking for, well galvinized looks hardly used (and I don't think it was)
> >> that is looking for a good home. Are you in the Annapolis area?
> >>>
> >>> I think I need to put together a flotsam and jetsom list of boat thingys
> >> that have accumulated over the years...
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> MichaelGrosh
> >>> #220
> >>>
> >>> On 2/22/2013 2:59 AM, Glennb wrote:
> >>> <snip>
> >>>>
> >>>> Assuming I don't go off and buy an A37, What in the world should I
> >>>> look for in terms of size and pulling capacity for an A30 windless?
> >>>>
> >>>> Thanks much,
> >>>>
> >>>> Glenn dolce 318
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>>
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> Message: 3
> Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2013 22:22:26 -0500
> From: Kris Coward <kris at melon.org>
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> On Sun, Feb 17, 2013 at 05:56:47PM -0500, John Birch wrote:
> > She was bought by Don Bester who successfully campaigned her out of
> > QCYC in Toronto until the early- mid 90's. The late legendary Gordon
> > Proctor skippered her for a while under Bester's ownership. She was
> > a force to be reckoned with under Bester / Proctor.
>
> That'd explain why the name sounded familiar...
>
> -K
>
> --
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> Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2013 07:13:15 -0600
> From: James Allocco <jamesallocco at gmail.com>
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> Subject: [Public-List] Rudder Shoe
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> Fellow Albergers,
>
> I have been away for several months with limited email access. Has there
> been any recent updates about the rudder shoe project?
>
> Jim Allocco
> Barchetta Mia 565
>
>
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> Message: 5
> Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2013 13:16:15 +0000
> From: "Manza, John CIV OSD POLICY" <John.Manza at osd.mil>
> To: "'public-list at lists.alberg30.org'"
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> Subject: Re: [Public-List] Rudder Shoe
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> I have lost track of this too. I asked to be included in the purchase several months ago -- but I don't know what happened.
>
> John Manza
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: James Allocco [mailto:jamesallocco at gmail.com]
> Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2013 08:13 AM
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> Subject: [Public-List] Rudder Shoe
>
> Fellow Albergers,
>
> I have been away for several months with limited email access. Has there
> been any recent updates about the rudder shoe project?
>
> Jim Allocco
> Barchetta Mia 565
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