[Public-List] Can anyone recommend a surveyor in the Norfolk area?

Richard Mair ramair49 at gmail.com
Sat Jul 13 12:15:13 PDT 2013


Andre since this is off the topic I will start a new thread.
On 2013-07-13 1:09 PM, "Andre Ballowe" <efficientair at gmail.com> wrote:

> Richard if I may but in here, my name is Andre and I have become an Alberg
> 30 (644)  owner 5 weeks ago. (Sounds like a twelve step program) She is in
> need of re-power as the MD7A is history.  Being put off by the price of new
> or even used replacement motors has gotten me thinking about repowering
> with electric. One of my long term goals was to install a few panels and
> the addition of batteries to gain comfort power when cruising. Using
> electric as the re-power tied with the solar would allow me many benefits.
>
> If I read right, you are powered by electric. Do you having any insights in
> going the electric power route? I'm quite fond of the idea of the
> re-arranged space made available by offing the diesel tank and motor, not
> having the smell, these along many other benefits.
>
> I've just lightly started the search for the proper way(s) to go about
> re-powering with electric, any insight from an electric Alberg owner would
> be awesome.
>
> Thank you,
> Andre 644
>
> Andre Ballowe
> Solutions for Energy Savings
> 916.990.2000
> If and when you get to the point of going electric get in touch. We love
> it and when  under sail we have a setup to charge the house from the regen.
> Richard 609
> On 2013-07-09 3:21 AM, "Jason S" <mpcylinderheads at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Good luck, Ray is my friend so I will leave the pricing up to you. But
> the
> > worst he can say is no.
> > I understand your wanting a diesel...seems to be all the rage...but that
> A4
> > is easy to work on and will last just about as long or longer than many
> > diesels.....if taken care of. Oh and parts are fairly easy to find and
> > cheap too, someone local gave me a spare A4 last year...that A4 is a
> whole
> > quieter than any diesel too.
> > I wouldn't let rigging scare you either....very easy to replace. This
> slso
> > gave me an opportunity to inspect all the addition rigging such as
> > masthead, sheaves, blocks, spreaders, mast base, boom etc, some of which
> > needed attention after 42yrs. Had i paid someone else to come rig boat
> > chances are none of that would have gotten the attention it needed and I
> > would have paid at least twice as much just for standing rigging. I made
> > all my shrouds and stays at home over a weekend. I used sta-loc fittings
> > top and bottom. If and when replace cable it will be relatively cheap.
> Food
> > for thought. Good luck again.
> > On Jul 9, 2013 2:07 AM, "Paul P" <pickpaul at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Great info, thanks! Yeh, already emailed the guy about that sail :-)
> what
> > > do you think a fair offer would be if things checked out? I don't want
> to
> > > insult the guy but there are a couple of diesels inc a recent yanmar
> > > further afield for under $10k. The atomic, running gear are all
> negatives
> > > but she looks like she has good canvas, nice dodger, solar, tiller
> > > autopilot I could tie into a capehorn, v clean interior.
> > >
> > > Wherever the price lands, it doesn't
> > > begin to represent the true value of a machine like that. It just needs
> a
> > > new home for someone to love it for the long term and show it the world
> > :-)
> > > Hopefully, we can make an agreement and make it happen. She's terribly
> > > pretty and local.
> > >
> > >
> > > Thanks again, wish me luck!
> > >
> > >
> > > Paul.
> > >
> > > —
> > > Sent from Mailbox for iPhone
> > >
> > > On Tue, Jul 9, 2013 at 1:47 AM, Jason S <mpcylinderheads at gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Those were my observations from the dock. I would check the decks.
> The
> > > main
> > > > does need replaced. But I see all these issues as bargaining
> > tools...you
> > > > might be able to get a solid boat for a deal.
> > > > I bought my Alberg for $4800.00 with good serviceable and sailable
> > sails,
> > > > Moyer rebuilt A4, new thru hulls, new lavac head, new shaft and
> > prop...I
> > > > sailed her home from Oriental, NC. I knew I would be replacing
> rigging
> > > > because honestly there is just no good way to know condition. Same
> with
> > > > chsinplates, so I replaced it all and know I know. I bought my boat
> > > knowing
> > > > it was a long term deal....I would eventually make her into a solid
> > > > cruising boat for my wife and I. Like I said I think she is a solid
> > > start.
> > > > If you replace main it should last a good while. I saw one on
> craiglist
> > > > there in Annapolis for $3-400.
> > > > On Jul 9, 2013 1:37 AM, "Paul" <pickpaul at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >> That's bad news about the rigging, the mainsail needs replacing too.
> > It
> > > >> looks like the previous owner spent some money though. I'd be
> happier
> > > with
> > > >> a diesel but I think an electric repower would be a great longer
> term
> > > >> project :-) Any specific "needs attention" items off the top of your
> > > head?
> > > >>
> > > >> Anyone know details of the previous owner of 449 and the work that
> he
> > > did.
> > > >> Current owner says he's not done anything significant in terms of
> > > >> maintenance since purchase a couple of years ago.
> > > >>
> > > >> Thanks so much,
> > > >>
> > > >> Paul.
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> On Tue, Jul 9, 2013 at 1:24 AM, Jason S <mpcylinderheads at gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >> > I have tried to talk him out if selling because I believe she is a
> > > good
> > > >> > solid boat...but as with all old boats some things need attention.
> > > >> > On Jul 9, 2013 1:22 AM, "Jason S" <mpcylinderheads at gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > > >> >
> > > >> > > Well, ask away. I can tell you her engine sounds great. I also
> > have
> > > an
> > > >> > > atomic 4, great engines. I believe her rigging is original by
> > > looking.
> > > >> I
> > > >> > > recently redid my rigging and chain plates myself, cost about
> > $2000
> > > >> when
> > > >> > > all totaled up. Her hull looks to be in good condition. She has
> a
> > > >> > beautiful
> > > >> > > gtoe rail, rub rail setup. She was sailed quite a bit by the
> > current
> > > >> > owner.
> > > >> > > Her interior is quite nice., what else?
> > > >> > > On Jul 9, 2013 1:18 AM, "Paul" <pickpaul at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > >> Amazing, small world! Please tell all :-D
> > > >> > >>
> > > >> > >>
> > > >> > >> On Tue, Jul 9, 2013 at 1:16 AM, Jason S <
> > mpcylinderheads at gmail.com
> > > >
> > > >> > >> wrote:
> > > >> > >>
> > > >> > >> > That's her and her hull is 449
> > > >> > >> > On Jul 9, 2013 1:09 AM, "Paul" <pickpaul at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >> > >> >
> > > >> > >> > > I'm not sure of the hull number. It's name is Janus. It has
> a
> > > blue
> > > >> > >> hull
> > > >> > >> > and
> > > >> > >> > > Dodger. It's a 1970. Is that the one right next to you? If
> > so,
> > > I'd
> > > >> > >> love
> > > >> > >> > any
> > > >> > >> > > info you or anyone else has.
> > > >> > >> > >
> > > >> > >> > > Thanks,
> > > >> > >> > >
> > > >> > >> > > Paul.
> > > >> > >> > >
> > > >> > >> > >
> > > >> > >> > > On Tue, Jul 9, 2013 at 12:45 AM, Jason S <
> > > >> mpcylinderheads at gmail.com
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > >> > > wrote:
> > > >> > >> > >
> > > >> > >> > > > I decided to skip a survey when buying my Alberg....all
> > > areas of
> > > >> > the
> > > >> > >> > boat
> > > >> > >> > > > are easily accessible. The boats are pretty basic and
> easy
> > to
> > > >> > >> maintain.
> > > >> > >> > > > Check chain plates, rigging. Have it hauled and inspect
> > > rudder.
> > > >> > >> Check
> > > >> > >> > > decks
> > > >> > >> > > > with screwdriver. Tap the decks through out. Should not
> > sound
> > > >> > >> hollow.
> > > >> > >> > > > Listen for creeking on decks as well. Do a compression
> test
> > > on
> > > >> > >> engine.
> > > >> > >> > If
> > > >> > >> > > > all systems look good go for it. A surveyor is only going
> > to
> > > >> give
> > > >> > >> his
> > > >> > >> > > best
> > > >> > >> > > > guess anyway.
> > > >> > >> > > > I knew when buying my Alberg that I would be replacing
> > > rigging
> > > >> > >> anyway
> > > >> > >> > do
> > > >> > >> > > it
> > > >> > >> > > > wasn't to much of a deal breaker that it was original.
> > > >> > >> > > > What Alberg in Norfolk are you looking at.....there is
> one
> > > right
> > > >> > >> next
> > > >> > >> > to
> > > >> > >> > > me
> > > >> > >> > > > for sale, I could give you some info on if it is the boat
> > you
> > > >> are
> > > >> > >> > looking
> > > >> > >> > > > at. Hull 449?
> > > >> > >> > > >
> > > >> > >> > > > Thanks
> > > >> > >> > > > Jason
> > > >> > >> > > > www.svsalacia.blogspot.com
> > > >> > >> > > > #457
> > > >> > >> > > > On Jul 9, 2013 12:18 AM, "Paul" <pickpaul at gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > > >> > >> > > >
> > > >> > >> > > > > Hi Again!
> > > >> > >> > > > >
> > > >> > >> > > > > Anyone have any recommendations for a surveyor in the
> > > Norfolk
> > > >> > area
> > > >> > >> > who
> > > >> > >> > > > > knows his way around an Alberg 30? :-)
> > > >> > >> > > > >
> > > >> > >> > > > > At under $10k asking price and a copy of Don Casey's
> > > Inspect
> > > >> an
> > > >> > >> aging
> > > >> > >> > > > > sailboat, I'd be tempted to skip it as it could
> represent
> > > 10%
> > > >> of
> > > >> > >> the
> > > >> > >> > > > > purchase price! But I'm going to need one to get
> > insurance.
> > > >> > >> Obviously
> > > >> > >> > > > > survey cost is a factor :-D
> > > >> > >> > > > >
> > > >> > >> > > > > Thanks in advance for any info, I'm very excited about
> > > >> becoming
> > > >> > an
> > > >> > >> > > Alberg
> > > >> > >> > > > > owner! I'm driving down from Baltimore to see it
> tomorrow
> > > >> > evening.
> > > >> > >> > Wish
> > > >> > >> > > > me
> > > >> > >> > > > > luck.
> > > >> > >> > > > >
> > > >> > >> > > > > Cheers,Paul.
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