[Public-List] Rudder needs some love...

Chris Martin notcmartin at yahoo.com
Tue Apr 1 19:44:09 PDT 2014


I purchased parts from them in the past too, top not kit. Bronze is the right material, stainless isnt. 

Good luck, it's a bit or work but manageable if you are willing to get a little dirty.




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 From: Glenn Brooks <brooks.glenn at comcast.net>
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Greg,

I just had Port Townsend Foundry cast a new bronze Grudgeon and Pintel for Dolce (318).  They have the molds.  Quoted cost was $250.  I am going over this week to pick it up and fit back on the boat.  Stainless rudder shafts will eventually fail through anaerobic corrosion.  A local marine welding shop showed me some stainless that was eaten up in less than a year.  Go with bronze for lifetime service if you can talk them into it.  Can't see why they couldn't do bronze if you speced it that way.  The bronze shaft can be drilled and 1/4" longitudinal stiffeners inserted through the shaft to reinforce  the blade is beyond simple to do.

Glenn 
Dolce 318



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> On Apr 1, 2014, at 9:53 AM, gregr at nethere.com wrote:
> 
> Hi Folks,
> 
> A quick update and query...
> 
> After taking things apart it was obvious that the blade was not recoverable.
> I'm also looking at replacing all the bronze. The pintle and gudgeon are the
> strap style that look to have been beat into shape. The shoe has a floating
> pin in it that is close to 3/4" in diameter. It fits the shoe well but left
> no meat in the base of the rudder so I have play there.
> 
> I'm working with Foss Company here in southern California to get a new
> rudder built from scratch. They are going to want to use a stainless rudder
> shaft because that fits their process. I haven't decided how I feel with
> that. It's not my first choice for sure but I know it's the norm these
> days. My bigger question is, given their process, how will we mount the
> other hardware. They consider the skins to be less structural than most...
> I'll pass on what I find. If it goes well it could be good for the group as
> they will then have the molds to make more A30 rudders.
> 
> Does anyone have a line on a spare rudder shoe? Blanks for pintle and
> gudgeon? I read the write up on the two piece pintle with screws and I
> don't understand how they are stronger than the single piece through
> bolted/riveted. I agree they should have made them beefier but
> fundamentally the single seems like it should be better. What am I missing?
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Greg
> 
> 
> 
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