[Public-List] New furler needed, recommendations? Get a Schaeffer - period, full stop ; )

Wed Dec 10 19:18:25 PST 2014

Michael et al

My experience is that profurl is very strong and that reefing more than 
three cranks is not a problem. My sails have reefing marks that tell me 
when the sails are smaller by 10 and 20%. Even after that much reefing 
and more sail shape is still functional - maybe not pretty, but beauty 
is not everything. As to adjusting the fore stay, sometimes there are 
problems  like mast inversion  that can be helped by adjusting the the 
fore stay. I can see a situation in tuning the rig in which one might 
want to change the fore stay tension.   In any case, I like options and 
multiple ways to solve problems. Serious adjusting the backstay requires 
a backstay adjuster and not every one has one.  All that said, most of 
the time, you are correct when you say that when the rig is set up 
properly, one has less reason to adjust the fore stay tension. But when 
I have to adjust the forestay tension,  I do not want to struggle with 
it like I did when the Harken really needed to be adjusted. Also I doubt 
if adjusting the fore stay would be a deal breaker by  itself, but being 
able to to do it easily is worth it. I always try to think of worse case 
problems - and my rigger always advises "cape horn" solutions.  I bless 
him for it though there is no chance I will be anywhere Cape Horn.  My 
two cents worth. or maybe just one cent.

David, 432

On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 9:36 PM, Michael Grosh via Public-List wrote:

> Maybe I'm missing something, but I don't see difficulty in adjusting 
> the
> headstay as a deal breaker. Once it's set up, headstay tension is 
> adjusted
> with the backstay. I don't think I ever mess with the forestay 
> turnbuckle
> on my hank on rig once I get the mast up.
> I can see the usefulness of self furling on larger rigs dealing with 
> larger
> square footage headsails; but there are some advantages to small. 
> Right?
> My son in law had to replace a foil section that got damaged in winter
> storage on his 27 footer. Boogers are delicate when not in the air.
> I bare boated a 39 footer once that had self furling and was told not 
> to
> reef more than 3 turns-more than that and the point load subjected the 
> foil
> to kinking. That was long ago though, perhaps the technology has 
> changed.
> MichaelGrosh
> #220
> On Dec 10, 2014 2:47 PM, "John Birch via Public-List" <
> public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
>
>> Love our Schaeffer 2000 Furler / Reefer on our A-37, stronger than 
>> Harken
>> - better design, twin #6 luff tape foil (internal luff groves, less
>> vulnerable to spin & whisker pole impacts). Bought ours 14 years ago, 
>> and
>> have had zero problems.
>>
>> For an A-30, you'd be looking for the Schaeffer 1100 series.
>>
>> Built in the USA, employee owned - what's not to like ; )
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> John
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Terrell via Public-List" <
>> public-list at lists.alberg30.org>
>> To: "Richard Mair" <ramair49 at gmail.com>
>> Cc: "Alberg 30 Public List -- open to all" 
>> <public-list at lists.alberg30.org
>>>
>> Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2014 10:41 AM
>> Subject: Re: [Public-List] New furler needed, recommendations?
>>
>>
>>  Richard
>>>
>>> I have a profurl and think it will meet your needs as it has been 
>>> used
>>> successfully in round the world races. One of the things I like 
>>> about it is
>>> that the tension on the fore stay can be adjusted easily. My 
>>> previous boat
>>> had a harken 00 and on that unit it was very difficult to adjust the
>>> forestay tension. I do not know if Harken has dealt with this issue. 
>>> I
>>> purchased the boat in 1994. Others can speak to changes Harken may 
>>> have
>>> made.
>>>
>>> David
>>> On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 5:09 PM, Richard Mair via Public-List wrote:
>>>
>>>  We have a Schafer which has been great. It's been across the 
>>> Atlantic and
>>>> up the St Lawrence. It was on the boat when we bought her ten years 
>>>> ago..
>>>>
>>>> Richard
>>>>    My furler has multiple issues and needs to be replaced. Any help 
>>>> with
>>>>    finding an appropriate one would be great. Also good places to 
>>>> get it
>>>>    done in Annapolis or Baltimore would be perfect. I plan on 
>>>> offshoring
>>>> a
>>>>    lot long term so assume I need something extra sturdy?
>>>>    Thanks all,
>>>>    Paul.
>>>>    --
>>>>    Sent from my Android phone with GMX Mail. Please excuse my 
>>>> brevity.
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