[Public-List] Repower, rebuild or sell

Wed Dec 10 11:45:46 PST 2014

Brian,
 We (or at least I) would be interested in why your are selling. Done sailing? Moving to another boat?
If so I agree with the idea that you either re-engine or take the engine out. If you take it out, it would be worth cleaning and painting the bilge for salability.

If you intend to keep sailing, re-engine with a diesel and keep the A30.  It's not that large a project.  I think there is no less expensive solution for the same quality of sailing!

Mike
Rinn Duin #272
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From: Public-List [mailto:public-list-bounces at lists.alberg30.org] On Behalf Of Glenn Brooks via Public-List
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Subject: Re: [Public-List] Repower, rebuild or sell

Brian,  
It might be time well spent to google craigslist for used marine engines for a few days.  I've seen both a rebuilt atomic 4 and several used but running small marine diesels for sale (cheap) around the Seattle  area over the last few months.  If the price is right and the equipment runs OK, you could afford to ship a used or rebuilt engine from anywhere in the country back to your location more economically than buying new, probably for less than $400 freight cost.

BTW, don't be put off by the work involved in changing engine mounts. I redid mine to correct some alignment issues this fall. IT was no big deal. Took less than 3 hours to glass in new beds and bolt back up the existing engine mounts.

Good luck,

Glenn 
Dolce #318

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> On Dec 10, 2014, at 10:33 AM, Wes Gardner via Public-List <public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
> 
> Hey Brian,
> 
> Looks like to me you have two options-your current motor with cracked block is toast leaving you with the Automatic 4 which you should be able to get at a reasonable price, installed.  You'd probably increase the value of the boat over its current "project boat" status dollar for dollar??? The other option is, as you've stated, the new diesel option where you will not recover the cost dollar for dollar.
> 
> Obviously there are a few variables going on here, personally I think I'd go the A4 route-it'll be rebuilt, right?
> 
> You can then sail her for a couple more years or sell. Can I assume you owe nothing on her as she sits?
> 
> Or maybe it's the project boat route where you take your 3 or 4 K and walk away.
> 
> Wes
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
>> On Dec 10, 2014, at 11:02 AM, Brian Zinser via Public-List <public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> I have owned #134 for more than 15 years. She has a Gray Marine Sea Scout
>> which has never let us down. Two years ago I noticed some loss of power and
>> this season I started to notice water in my oil. Anyway, when she was hauled
>> out this fall I had the engine removed and diagnosed. This is the report I
>> received:
>> 
>> We did a compression test on the motor  with the following results: 
>> 110lbs. #1 cylinder; 100 #2lbs. cylinder; 0lbs. #3 cylinder;  40lbs. # 4
>> cylinder
>> 
>> We found the motor has a cracked block and has two broken valve springs with
>> a bent valve.
>> 
>> The motor had water in the oil and the oil was very milky.
>> 
>> We removed the head to do visual inspection of valves and head gasket and do
>> not believe the water is coming through the head gasket, but that it's
>> coming through at a different point, possibly the crack in the block.
>> 
>> In our judgement we believe it would be best to replace motor.
>> 
>> The shop that did the diagnosis has a used Atomic 4 they want to sell me. I
>> have spoken/sent photos to Gray Marine in Illinois and he has informed me
>> that he gets them like this all the time. No sweat. Cannot give me a quote
>> without seeing.
>> 
>> Other options include repowering with a diesel or selling the boat as a
>> "project boat"
>> 
>> For the most part, the boat is in fairly good shape. Only freshwater, no
>> major remuddles. Average equipment, i.e. newer sails, ProFurl furler,
>> dodger, Origo stove.
>> 
>> I also have a decent trailer (not a highway trailer, but certainly more than
>> a yard trailer - it can easily be used on secondary roads.)
>> 
>> Thinking of selling. Any opinions on what might be a fair value for the boat
>> with a torn down problem engine?
>> 
>> Brian Zinser
>> #134
>> 
>> 
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