[Public-List] Check that standing rigging-- especially this kind of terminal

[Jeffrey via Public-List]

I'm unfamiliar with these fittings. Can anybody provide a link to a photo
of one??

Does the fitting look like this?

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/95/Wire_rope_with_thimble_and_ferrule.jpg

-Jeff


Seagrass. #116
Boothbay Harbor, Maine
http://sailboatseagrass.com/

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On Mon, Jul 14, 2014 at 6:43 PM, Glenn Brooks via Public-List <
public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:

> Hi Randy,  your paint job sounds like it came out nice.  These nico press
> fittings and thimble ends were the only wire you could get in Alaska during
> the 70's and 80's- widely used and made up with no issues on hundreds if
> not thousands of sailboats and commercial fishing boats.  No one had
> swaging machines locally in those days, so this is all you could get.   My
> old 62' wood ketch was rigged this way, and also had some really old hand
> made wire splices looped around the mast.  The thimbles and swagged
> fittings never failed, even when the wire strands started to break.  It's
> probably good to change them out, but there is plenty of history of
> successful service with this design and I am sure you where never at risk -
> whereas swayed fittings (shipped in from Seattle) of that era failed
> regularly at a given age, and probably still do.   Sta lok or hi mod are
> undoubtedly superior to all, even though more way expensive.
>
> BTW, I saw a guy in Everett Marina today working on some sailboat masthead
> with a small boom truck and gantry.  Owner was sunning himself on the deck
> whilst the guy in the gantry replaced wires.  So at least one local rigger
>  makes house calls.
>
> Glenn
> Dolce 318
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> > On Jul 14, 2014, at 2:49 PM, Randy Katz via Public-List <
> public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
> >
> > Greetings, All,
> >
> > Besides the painting upgrade, I was able to meet up with Don Yager of
> Yager
> > Sails  (in Spokane, WA. at http://www.yagersails.com/). He makes
> occasional
> > trips to Bellingham where we keep the boat, this time to deliver a new
> sail
> > to a customer there. He generously offered to take a look at my Profurl
> set
> > up to advise re: the life expectancy of the forestay.
> >
> > The forestay's good for a few more years, but he pointed out one thing
> that
> > I was REALLY glad to hear about-- this is especially relevant to some of
> us
> > with older boats. (Well, I guess that's ALL of us, eh?)
> >
> > While the lower ends of all the rigging had a variation of a Norseman
> > mechanical compression fitting, the upper ends nearly all consist of wire
> > wrapped around a SS thimble and crimped with Nico-press types of fitting.
> > Don declared these to be no-no's and dangerous, to replace right away.
> This
> > thought was seconded by Pete, the rigging expert at Fishery Supply in
> > Seattle. Raised eyebrows all around!
> >
> > So, we're dropping the mast tomorrow in order to remove all that stuff
> and
> > replace it with wire from Fisheries Supply. Chinese-made wire is,
> > apparently, to be completely avoided. US-made is best, though it can be
> > hard to find. (I checked with a dozen places in western WA and found one
> or
> > two sources: West Marine-- expensive-- and NW Rigging in Anacortes at
> about
> > half the price. Let me know if you'd like a copy of my notes about this.
> Or
> > photos of the fittings.)
> >
> > We're going with Fishery Supplies Korean wire made by KOS but stranded
> > together in the US. A good reputation, supposedly.
> >
> > You may want to check you own rigging to be sure you don't have those
> > crimped terminals. (The rigging is not original; it spent some years in
> > Portland, OR. before I bought it in 2000.)
> >
> > This puts the sailing trip back another week, but heck, I'm glad to know
> of
> > it. I can only imagine how lucky we've been, having sailed through all
> > kinds of weather with those fittings over the last dozen years!
> >
> > Best Regards,
> >
> > Randy Katz
> > #249 Simple Gifts
> > Bellingham/Seattle
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