[Public-List] Check that standing rigging-- especially this kind of terminal

Tue Jul 15 07:55:48 PDT 2014

That is a nico press fitting that can be done with a tool that looks sorta
like a bolt cutter.  Nico press sleeves are inexpensive and fairly easy to
find.   Use a thimble like they did in the photo.

On Tue, Jul 15, 2014 at 10:36 AM, Jeffrey via Public-List <
public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:

> I'm unfamiliar with these fittings. Can anybody provide a link to a photo
> of one??
>
> Does the fitting look like this?
>
>
> http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/95/Wire_rope_with_thimble_and_ferrule.jpg
>
> -Jeff
>
>
> Seagrass. #116
> Boothbay Harbor, Maine
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> On Mon, Jul 14, 2014 at 6:43 PM, Glenn Brooks via Public-List <
> public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
>
> > Hi Randy,  your paint job sounds like it came out nice.  These nico press
> > fittings and thimble ends were the only wire you could get in Alaska
> during
> > the 70's and 80's- widely used and made up with no issues on hundreds if
> > not thousands of sailboats and commercial fishing boats.  No one had
> > swaging machines locally in those days, so this is all you could get.
> My
> > old 62' wood ketch was rigged this way, and also had some really old hand
> > made wire splices looped around the mast.  The thimbles and swagged
> > fittings never failed, even when the wire strands started to break.  It's
> > probably good to change them out, but there is plenty of history of
> > successful service with this design and I am sure you where never at
> risk -
> > whereas swayed fittings (shipped in from Seattle) of that era failed
> > regularly at a given age, and probably still do.   Sta lok or hi mod are
> > undoubtedly superior to all, even though more way expensive.
> >
> > BTW, I saw a guy in Everett Marina today working on some sailboat
> masthead
> > with a small boom truck and gantry.  Owner was sunning himself on the
> deck
> > whilst the guy in the gantry replaced wires.  So at least one local
> rigger
> >  makes house calls.
> >
> > Glenn
> > Dolce 318
> >
> > Sent from my iPad
> >
> > > On Jul 14, 2014, at 2:49 PM, Randy Katz via Public-List <
> > public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
> > >
> > > Greetings, All,
> > >
> > > Besides the painting upgrade, I was able to meet up with Don Yager of
> > Yager
> > > Sails  (in Spokane, WA. at http://www.yagersails.com/). He makes
> > occasional
> > > trips to Bellingham where we keep the boat, this time to deliver a new
> > sail
> > > to a customer there. He generously offered to take a look at my Profurl
> > set
> > > up to advise re: the life expectancy of the forestay.
> > >
> > > The forestay's good for a few more years, but he pointed out one thing
> > that
> > > I was REALLY glad to hear about-- this is especially relevant to some
> of
> > us
> > > with older boats. (Well, I guess that's ALL of us, eh?)
> > >
> > > While the lower ends of all the rigging had a variation of a Norseman
> > > mechanical compression fitting, the upper ends nearly all consist of
> wire
> > > wrapped around a SS thimble and crimped with Nico-press types of
> fitting.
> > > Don declared these to be no-no's and dangerous, to replace right away.
> > This
> > > thought was seconded by Pete, the rigging expert at Fishery Supply in
> > > Seattle. Raised eyebrows all around!
> > >
> > > So, we're dropping the mast tomorrow in order to remove all that stuff
> > and
> > > replace it with wire from Fisheries Supply. Chinese-made wire is,
> > > apparently, to be completely avoided. US-made is best, though it can be
> > > hard to find. (I checked with a dozen places in western WA and found
> one
> > or
> > > two sources: West Marine-- expensive-- and NW Rigging in Anacortes at
> > about
> > > half the price. Let me know if you'd like a copy of my notes about
> this.
> > Or
> > > photos of the fittings.)
> > >
> > > We're going with Fishery Supplies Korean wire made by KOS but stranded
> > > together in the US. A good reputation, supposedly.
> > >
> > > You may want to check you own rigging to be sure you don't have those
> > > crimped terminals. (The rigging is not original; it spent some years in
> > > Portland, OR. before I bought it in 2000.)
> > >
> > > This puts the sailing trip back another week, but heck, I'm glad to
> know
> > of
> > > it. I can only imagine how lucky we've been, having sailed through all
> > > kinds of weather with those fittings over the last dozen years!
> > >
> > > Best Regards,
> > >
> > > Randy Katz
> > > #249 Simple Gifts
> > > Bellingham/Seattle
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