[Public-List] Check that standing rigging-- especially this kind of terminal

Tue Jul 15 08:51:47 PDT 2014

http://www.s3i.co.uk/sta-lok-fittings.php

Here's a UK firm that sells Sta Lok. I believe their system is set up such
that it can be done in the field

On Tue, Jul 15, 2014 at 11:01 AM, Wes Gardner <wesgardner1952 at gmail.com>
wrote:

> http://www.sanlo.com/index.php?id=16
>
> This is what I usually call a swagged end fitting, it's typically done in
> a shop and is more expensive than nico press
>
>
> On Tue, Jul 15, 2014 at 10:55 AM, Wes Gardner <wesgardner1952 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> That is a nico press fitting that can be done with a tool that looks
>> sorta like a bolt cutter.  Nico press sleeves are inexpensive and fairly
>> easy to find.   Use a thimble like they did in the photo.
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Jul 15, 2014 at 10:36 AM, Jeffrey via Public-List <
>> public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
>>
>>> I'm unfamiliar with these fittings. Can anybody provide a link to a photo
>>> of one??
>>>
>>> Does the fitting look like this?
>>>
>>>
>>> http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/95/Wire_rope_with_thimble_and_ferrule.jpg
>>>
>>> -Jeff
>>>
>>>
>>> Seagrass. #116
>>> Boothbay Harbor, Maine
>>> http://sailboatseagrass.com/
>>>
>>> <http://instagram.com/jfongemie>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Jul 14, 2014 at 6:43 PM, Glenn Brooks via Public-List <
>>> public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
>>>
>>> > Hi Randy,  your paint job sounds like it came out nice.  These nico
>>> press
>>> > fittings and thimble ends were the only wire you could get in Alaska
>>> during
>>> > the 70's and 80's- widely used and made up with no issues on hundreds
>>> if
>>> > not thousands of sailboats and commercial fishing boats.  No one had
>>> > swaging machines locally in those days, so this is all you could get.
>>>   My
>>> > old 62' wood ketch was rigged this way, and also had some really old
>>> hand
>>> > made wire splices looped around the mast.  The thimbles and swagged
>>> > fittings never failed, even when the wire strands started to break.
>>>  It's
>>> > probably good to change them out, but there is plenty of history of
>>> > successful service with this design and I am sure you where never at
>>> risk -
>>> > whereas swayed fittings (shipped in from Seattle) of that era failed
>>> > regularly at a given age, and probably still do.   Sta lok or hi mod
>>> are
>>> > undoubtedly superior to all, even though more way expensive.
>>> >
>>> > BTW, I saw a guy in Everett Marina today working on some sailboat
>>> masthead
>>> > with a small boom truck and gantry.  Owner was sunning himself on the
>>> deck
>>> > whilst the guy in the gantry replaced wires.  So at least one local
>>> rigger
>>> >  makes house calls.
>>> >
>>> > Glenn
>>> > Dolce 318
>>> >
>>> > Sent from my iPad
>>> >
>>> > > On Jul 14, 2014, at 2:49 PM, Randy Katz via Public-List <
>>> > public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
>>> > >
>>> > > Greetings, All,
>>> > >
>>> > > Besides the painting upgrade, I was able to meet up with Don Yager of
>>> > Yager
>>> > > Sails  (in Spokane, WA. at http://www.yagersails.com/). He makes
>>> > occasional
>>> > > trips to Bellingham where we keep the boat, this time to deliver a
>>> new
>>> > sail
>>> > > to a customer there. He generously offered to take a look at my
>>> Profurl
>>> > set
>>> > > up to advise re: the life expectancy of the forestay.
>>> > >
>>> > > The forestay's good for a few more years, but he pointed out one
>>> thing
>>> > that
>>> > > I was REALLY glad to hear about-- this is especially relevant to
>>> some of
>>> > us
>>> > > with older boats. (Well, I guess that's ALL of us, eh?)
>>> > >
>>> > > While the lower ends of all the rigging had a variation of a Norseman
>>> > > mechanical compression fitting, the upper ends nearly all consist of
>>> wire
>>> > > wrapped around a SS thimble and crimped with Nico-press types of
>>> fitting.
>>> > > Don declared these to be no-no's and dangerous, to replace right
>>> away.
>>> > This
>>> > > thought was seconded by Pete, the rigging expert at Fishery Supply in
>>> > > Seattle. Raised eyebrows all around!
>>> > >
>>> > > So, we're dropping the mast tomorrow in order to remove all that
>>> stuff
>>> > and
>>> > > replace it with wire from Fisheries Supply. Chinese-made wire is,
>>> > > apparently, to be completely avoided. US-made is best, though it can
>>> be
>>> > > hard to find. (I checked with a dozen places in western WA and found
>>> one
>>> > or
>>> > > two sources: West Marine-- expensive-- and NW Rigging in Anacortes at
>>> > about
>>> > > half the price. Let me know if you'd like a copy of my notes about
>>> this.
>>> > Or
>>> > > photos of the fittings.)
>>> > >
>>> > > We're going with Fishery Supplies Korean wire made by KOS but
>>> stranded
>>> > > together in the US. A good reputation, supposedly.
>>> > >
>>> > > You may want to check you own rigging to be sure you don't have those
>>> > > crimped terminals. (The rigging is not original; it spent some years
>>> in
>>> > > Portland, OR. before I bought it in 2000.)
>>> > >
>>> > > This puts the sailing trip back another week, but heck, I'm glad to
>>> know
>>> > of
>>> > > it. I can only imagine how lucky we've been, having sailed through
>>> all
>>> > > kinds of weather with those fittings over the last dozen years!
>>> > >
>>> > > Best Regards,
>>> > >
>>> > > Randy Katz
>>> > > #249 Simple Gifts
>>> > > Bellingham/Seattle
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