[Public-List] Check that standing rigging-- especially this kind of terminal

Tue Jul 15 16:31:36 PDT 2014

Try this web site, they have all the parts and necessary for that type of crimping

Eric

A30 #541

> On Jul 15, 2014, at 10:36, "Jeffrey via Public-List" <public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
> 
> I'm unfamiliar with these fittings. Can anybody provide a link to a photo
> of one??
> 
> Does the fitting look like this?
> 
> http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/95/Wire_rope_with_thimble_and_ferrule.jpg
> 
> -Jeff
> 
> 
> Seagrass. #116
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> 
> On Mon, Jul 14, 2014 at 6:43 PM, Glenn Brooks via Public-List <
> public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
> 
>> Hi Randy,  your paint job sounds like it came out nice.  These nico press
>> fittings and thimble ends were the only wire you could get in Alaska during
>> the 70's and 80's- widely used and made up with no issues on hundreds if
>> not thousands of sailboats and commercial fishing boats.  No one had
>> swaging machines locally in those days, so this is all you could get.   My
>> old 62' wood ketch was rigged this way, and also had some really old hand
>> made wire splices looped around the mast.  The thimbles and swagged
>> fittings never failed, even when the wire strands started to break.  It's
>> probably good to change them out, but there is plenty of history of
>> successful service with this design and I am sure you where never at risk -
>> whereas swayed fittings (shipped in from Seattle) of that era failed
>> regularly at a given age, and probably still do.   Sta lok or hi mod are
>> undoubtedly superior to all, even though more way expensive.
>> 
>> BTW, I saw a guy in Everett Marina today working on some sailboat masthead
>> with a small boom truck and gantry.  Owner was sunning himself on the deck
>> whilst the guy in the gantry replaced wires.  So at least one local rigger
>> makes house calls.
>> 
>> Glenn
>> Dolce 318
>> 
>> Sent from my iPad
>> 
>>>> On Jul 14, 2014, at 2:49 PM, Randy Katz via Public-List <
>>> public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Greetings, All,
>>> 
>>> Besides the painting upgrade, I was able to meet up with Don Yager of
>> Yager
>>> Sails  (in Spokane, WA. at http://www.yagersails.com/). He makes
>> occasional
>>> trips to Bellingham where we keep the boat, this time to deliver a new
>> sail
>>> to a customer there. He generously offered to take a look at my Profurl
>> set
>>> up to advise re: the life expectancy of the forestay.
>>> 
>>> The forestay's good for a few more years, but he pointed out one thing
>> that
>>> I was REALLY glad to hear about-- this is especially relevant to some of
>> us
>>> with older boats. (Well, I guess that's ALL of us, eh?)
>>> 
>>> While the lower ends of all the rigging had a variation of a Norseman
>>> mechanical compression fitting, the upper ends nearly all consist of wire
>>> wrapped around a SS thimble and crimped with Nico-press types of fitting.
>>> Don declared these to be no-no's and dangerous, to replace right away.
>> This
>>> thought was seconded by Pete, the rigging expert at Fishery Supply in
>>> Seattle. Raised eyebrows all around!
>>> 
>>> So, we're dropping the mast tomorrow in order to remove all that stuff
>> and
>>> replace it with wire from Fisheries Supply. Chinese-made wire is,
>>> apparently, to be completely avoided. US-made is best, though it can be
>>> hard to find. (I checked with a dozen places in western WA and found one
>> or
>>> two sources: West Marine-- expensive-- and NW Rigging in Anacortes at
>> about
>>> half the price. Let me know if you'd like a copy of my notes about this.
>> Or
>>> photos of the fittings.)
>>> 
>>> We're going with Fishery Supplies Korean wire made by KOS but stranded
>>> together in the US. A good reputation, supposedly.
>>> 
>>> You may want to check you own rigging to be sure you don't have those
>>> crimped terminals. (The rigging is not original; it spent some years in
>>> Portland, OR. before I bought it in 2000.)
>>> 
>>> This puts the sailing trip back another week, but heck, I'm glad to know
>> of
>>> it. I can only imagine how lucky we've been, having sailed through all
>>> kinds of weather with those fittings over the last dozen years!
>>> 
>>> Best Regards,
>>> 
>>> Randy Katz
>>> #249 Simple Gifts
>>> Bellingham/Seattle
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