[Public-List] Check that standing rigging-- especially this kind of terminal

Tue Jul 15 16:38:13 PDT 2014

http://www.webriggingsupply.com/pages/catalog/hardware/hardware-intro.html

better like that !

> On Jul 15, 2014, at 19:31, "Eric Chavigny via Public-List" <public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
> 
> Try this web site, they have all the parts and necessary for that type of crimping
> 
> Eric
> 
> A30 #541
> 
>> On Jul 15, 2014, at 10:36, "Jeffrey via Public-List" <public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
>> 
>> I'm unfamiliar with these fittings. Can anybody provide a link to a photo
>> of one??
>> 
>> Does the fitting look like this?
>> 
>> http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/95/Wire_rope_with_thimble_and_ferrule.jpg
>> 
>> -Jeff
>> 
>> 
>> Seagrass. #116
>> Boothbay Harbor, Maine
>> http://sailboatseagrass.com/
>> 
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>> 
>> 
>> On Mon, Jul 14, 2014 at 6:43 PM, Glenn Brooks via Public-List <
>> public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Randy,  your paint job sounds like it came out nice.  These nico press
>>> fittings and thimble ends were the only wire you could get in Alaska during
>>> the 70's and 80's- widely used and made up with no issues on hundreds if
>>> not thousands of sailboats and commercial fishing boats.  No one had
>>> swaging machines locally in those days, so this is all you could get.   My
>>> old 62' wood ketch was rigged this way, and also had some really old hand
>>> made wire splices looped around the mast.  The thimbles and swagged
>>> fittings never failed, even when the wire strands started to break.  It's
>>> probably good to change them out, but there is plenty of history of
>>> successful service with this design and I am sure you where never at risk -
>>> whereas swayed fittings (shipped in from Seattle) of that era failed
>>> regularly at a given age, and probably still do.   Sta lok or hi mod are
>>> undoubtedly superior to all, even though more way expensive.
>>> 
>>> BTW, I saw a guy in Everett Marina today working on some sailboat masthead
>>> with a small boom truck and gantry.  Owner was sunning himself on the deck
>>> whilst the guy in the gantry replaced wires.  So at least one local rigger
>>> makes house calls.
>>> 
>>> Glenn
>>> Dolce 318
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPad
>>> 
>>>>> On Jul 14, 2014, at 2:49 PM, Randy Katz via Public-List <
>>>> public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Greetings, All,
>>>> 
>>>> Besides the painting upgrade, I was able to meet up with Don Yager of
>>> Yager
>>>> Sails  (in Spokane, WA. at http://www.yagersails.com/). He makes
>>> occasional
>>>> trips to Bellingham where we keep the boat, this time to deliver a new
>>> sail
>>>> to a customer there. He generously offered to take a look at my Profurl
>>> set
>>>> up to advise re: the life expectancy of the forestay.
>>>> 
>>>> The forestay's good for a few more years, but he pointed out one thing
>>> that
>>>> I was REALLY glad to hear about-- this is especially relevant to some of
>>> us
>>>> with older boats. (Well, I guess that's ALL of us, eh?)
>>>> 
>>>> While the lower ends of all the rigging had a variation of a Norseman
>>>> mechanical compression fitting, the upper ends nearly all consist of wire
>>>> wrapped around a SS thimble and crimped with Nico-press types of fitting.
>>>> Don declared these to be no-no's and dangerous, to replace right away.
>>> This
>>>> thought was seconded by Pete, the rigging expert at Fishery Supply in
>>>> Seattle. Raised eyebrows all around!
>>>> 
>>>> So, we're dropping the mast tomorrow in order to remove all that stuff
>>> and
>>>> replace it with wire from Fisheries Supply. Chinese-made wire is,
>>>> apparently, to be completely avoided. US-made is best, though it can be
>>>> hard to find. (I checked with a dozen places in western WA and found one
>>> or
>>>> two sources: West Marine-- expensive-- and NW Rigging in Anacortes at
>>> about
>>>> half the price. Let me know if you'd like a copy of my notes about this.
>>> Or
>>>> photos of the fittings.)
>>>> 
>>>> We're going with Fishery Supplies Korean wire made by KOS but stranded
>>>> together in the US. A good reputation, supposedly.
>>>> 
>>>> You may want to check you own rigging to be sure you don't have those
>>>> crimped terminals. (The rigging is not original; it spent some years in
>>>> Portland, OR. before I bought it in 2000.)
>>>> 
>>>> This puts the sailing trip back another week, but heck, I'm glad to know
>>> of
>>>> it. I can only imagine how lucky we've been, having sailed through all
>>>> kinds of weather with those fittings over the last dozen years!
>>>> 
>>>> Best Regards,
>>>> 
>>>> Randy Katz
>>>> #249 Simple Gifts
>>>> Bellingham/Seattle
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