[Public-List] Interior bulkhead thickness

Bill Boyle via Public-List public-list at lists.alberg30.org
Sat Aug 22 12:56:03 PDT 2015


Mine is 7/8 inch  non liner

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> On Aug 22, 2015, at 3:30 PM, via Public-List <public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
> 
> Anyone know offhand the thickness of the bulkhead between main cabin and the hanging locker?
> 
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>> On Aug 21, 2015, at 6:17 PM, Gordon Laco via Public-List <public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
>> 
>> A marine engine restorer in Toronto told me the two-cylinder models were
>> once called 'Nagasaki Knockers' connecting the sound with the place they're
>> built.  He also said they're good engines.
>> 
>> Just back from a bittersweet session salvaging cabin cabinetry from a
>> Folkboat that is facing being cut up at a friend's boat yard.  The poor old
>> boat, which once belonged to a dear friend of mine, was brought to the yard
>> for restoration.  The owner blanched at the cost and abandoned her.  She's
>> really in dreadful condition and even when new, was an odd version of her
>> type so she's at the end of the road.
>> 
>> Well parts of her will live on in my Folkboat...and her old folding table
>> will go aboard SURPRISE.
>> 
>> Gord #426 Surprise
>> 
>> 
>> On 21/08/15 5:48 PM, "Wes Gardner via Public-List"
>> <public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi All,
>>> 
>>> I understand and do recall from sailing in a J30 that the two cylinder Yanmars
>>> did create a "certain note." My Vetus was pretty quite I guess, my engine
>>> compartment has no sound insulation
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPad
>>> 
>>>> On Aug 21, 2015, at 11:30 AM, Bill Boyle <wpb1210 at yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> I hope Yanmar has improved the noise level of their motors.  We have a 2qm15
>>>> installed in Slainte #129.  It was done in the early 80's by a previous
>>>> owner.  I recently replaced all the insulation in the motor box but the db
>>>> level is still high.  Idling  and low speed are the worst. The yanmar
>>>> "Hammer" is in full play.
>>>> 
>>>> From: Jonathan Bresler via Public-List <public-list at lists.alberg30.org>
>>>> To: Wes Gardner <wesgardner1952 at gmail.com>; Alberg 30 Public List -- open to
>>>> all <public-list at lists.alberg30.org>
>>>> Cc: Jim Davis <a30240 at earthlink.net>
>>>> Sent: Friday, August 21, 2015 11:21 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: [Public-List] Motor Replacement continued
>>>> 
>>>> Wes,
>>>> 
>>>> If you would like to see a Yanmar 2GM20F installed in a 1967 Alberg, please
>>>> let me know.  There is one aboard #262.
>>>> The new Yanmar's, 2YM15 and 3YM20, have the raw water pump installed with
>>>> the impeller facing forward and accessible.  Previously you had to remove
>>>> the pump from the engine to access the impeller.  The oil dipstick has been
>>>> relocated to the front side of the engine from the starboard side.  On the
>>>> other hand, the position of the oil filter is worse, seems to be back where
>>>> the oil dip stick was.
>>>> 
>>>> Was wondering which boat you had.  Tried to find you in the A30BoatHistory
>>>> spreadsheet without success.
>>>> 
>>>> Jonathan
>>>> 
>>>> On Fri, Aug 21, 2015 at 10:55 AM, Wes Gardner via Public-List <
>>>> public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Oh, by the way, my boat is a non-liner boat built in '67-#196, so I can
>>>>> assume that at one point it did have the Atomic4, it still has the shift
>>>>> linkage cross-brace back behind the motor.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Aug 20, 2015, at 5:48 PM, Fraser Kittson via Public-List <
>>>>>> public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> My 1978 A30 came factory with a Volvo MD7A if you can find on there a
>>>>> great motor. Drops rite in.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Fraser Kittson
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Aug 20, 2015, at 4:40 PM, Jim Davis via Public-List <
>>>>> public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> A few thoughts on replacement engines.  Back when I owned #240 I put a
>>>>>>> Yanmar 2GM in it.  This works well on the pre-liner boats, but on a
>>>>>>> liner boat the engine room pan gets in the way as the Yanmar is too
>>>>>>> deep.  Westerbeake and Beta are a better option in the liner boats and
>>>>>>> if I were to do a repower today I would go with the Beta.  Both
>>>>>>> Westerbeake and Beta are as near drop in replacements for the Atomic 4
>>>>>>> as you will find and are made on the same Kabota block.  When I did my
>>>>>>> repower Beta was the "new kid on the block", but they have now been
>>>>>>> around for a couple decades and actively marketing their product.
>>>>>>> http://www.betamarinenc.com/
>>>>>>> http://www.westerbeke.com/pages/westerbekeengines.htm
>>>>>>> Jim Davis
>>>>>>> Privateer Isa Lei
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> If man does find the solution for world peace it will be the most
>>>>> revolutionary
>>>>>>> reversal of his record we have ever known.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> George C. Marshall
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Message: 2
>>>>>>> Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2015 11:37:40 -0400
>>>>>>> From: Jonathan Bresler via Public-List
>>>>>>>    <public-list at lists.alberg30.org>
>>>>>>> To: Wes Gardner <wesgardner1952 at gmail.com>
>>>>>>> Cc: Alberg 30 Public List -- open to all
>>>>>>>    <public-list at lists.alberg30.org>
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Public-List] Motor Replacement continued
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>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Wes,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Don't know what other folks have.
>>>>>>> #262 has a Yanmar 2GM20F installed by the previous owner, Tom Baker.
>>>>> Tom
>>>>>>> got two from Florida
>>>>>>> #11 (?) Woody has the other 2GM20F from Tom, as far as I know.
>>>>>>> #247 and #550, which I am familiar with from racing on them, both have
>>>>>>> Atomic 4's
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Jonathan
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Wed, Aug 19, 2015 at 5:14 PM, Wes Gardner <wesgardner1952 at gmail.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> That sounds correct...I'd just make doubly sure that your oil pressure
>>>>>>>> gauge sender and the one for the alarm (if so installed) are all
>>>>> properly
>>>>>>>> done. This will include ALL blocks built outside of the States.  By the
>>>>>>>> way, what motor do most folks have (other than the original A4)?  I may
>>>>>>>> have to consider an alternative if mine can't be rebuilt.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Wed, Aug 19, 2015 at 3:21 PM, Jonathan Bresler <
>>>>> 262alberg30 at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Seems that Catalina folk have run into the problem of threads sizes as
>>>>>>>>> well as wanting a gauge vs a normally-closed switch.
>>>>>>>>> [1]
>>>>> http://www.catalinadirect.com/index.cfm/product/3288/oil-pressure-sender-f
>>>>>>> or-yanmar-diesels.cfm
>>>>>>>>> From looking around a bit it appears that VDO calls the type with two
>>>>>>>>> electrical terminals "floating ground" switch as opposed to "standard
>>>>>>>>> ground" (shorted to engine block).
>>>>>>>>> [2]
>>>>> http://www.vdo-instruments.com/sensors/pressure-sensors-switches.html
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Jonathan
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Aug 19, 2015 at 3:12 PM, Wes Gardner <
>>>>> wesgardner1952 at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Good article...could have saved me several grand.  A note about the
>>>>> oil
>>>>>>>>>> pressure sender, when it blows out of the side of the motor, no
>>>>> alarm will
>>>>>>>>>> sound because it needs the ground from the nipple.  The way to avoid
>>>>> this
>>>>>>>>>> is to get a sender that has TWO terminals and ground the ground to
>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>> motor somewhere, that way, when your sender blows out of the side of
>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>> motor, you'll get an alarm (if it's hooked up)...mine was also not
>>>>> hooked
>>>>>>>>>> up but wouldn't have worked anyway...
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Aug 19, 2015 at 2:43 PM, Jonathan Bresler <
>>>>> 262alberg30 at gmail.com
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Ouch!
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Was reading earlier this week about a oil pressure senders and the
>>>>>>>>>>> different threads involved.  1/8" NPT vs 1/8 PT on a Yanmar engine.
>>>>>>>>>>> [3]
>>>>> http://www.oceannavigator.com/September-2011/Upgrading-Yanmar-oil-pressu
>>>>>>> re-gauge-and-sender/
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Jonathan
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> References
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 1.
>>>>> http://www.catalinadirect.com/index.cfm/product/3288/oil-pressure-sender-for
>>>>> -yanmar-diesels.cfm
>>>>>>> 2.
>>>>> http://www.vdo-instruments.com/sensors/pressure-sensors-switches.html
>>>>>>> 3.
>>>>> http://www.oceannavigator.com/September-2011/Upgrading-Yanmar-oil-pressure-g
>>>>> auge-and-sender/
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>>>> 
>>>> -- 
>>>> Jonathan M Bresler
>>>> Alberg 30 #262
>>>> Annapolis/Eastport MD
>>>> 
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