[Public-List] Interior bulkhead thickness

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Sat Aug 22 12:30:16 PDT 2015


Anyone know offhand the thickness of the bulkhead between main cabin and the hanging locker?

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> On Aug 21, 2015, at 6:17 PM, Gordon Laco via Public-List <public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
> 
> A marine engine restorer in Toronto told me the two-cylinder models were
> once called 'Nagasaki Knockers' connecting the sound with the place they're
> built.  He also said they're good engines.
> 
> Just back from a bittersweet session salvaging cabin cabinetry from a
> Folkboat that is facing being cut up at a friend's boat yard.  The poor old
> boat, which once belonged to a dear friend of mine, was brought to the yard
> for restoration.  The owner blanched at the cost and abandoned her.  She's
> really in dreadful condition and even when new, was an odd version of her
> type so she's at the end of the road.
> 
> Well parts of her will live on in my Folkboat...and her old folding table
> will go aboard SURPRISE.
> 
> Gord #426 Surprise
> 
> 
> On 21/08/15 5:48 PM, "Wes Gardner via Public-List"
> <public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
> 
>> Hi All,
>> 
>> I understand and do recall from sailing in a J30 that the two cylinder Yanmars
>> did create a "certain note." My Vetus was pretty quite I guess, my engine
>> compartment has no sound insulation
>> 
>> Sent from my iPad
>> 
>>> On Aug 21, 2015, at 11:30 AM, Bill Boyle <wpb1210 at yahoo.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I hope Yanmar has improved the noise level of their motors.  We have a 2qm15
>>> installed in Slainte #129.  It was done in the early 80's by a previous
>>> owner.  I recently replaced all the insulation in the motor box but the db
>>> level is still high.  Idling  and low speed are the worst. The yanmar
>>> "Hammer" is in full play.
>>> 
>>> From: Jonathan Bresler via Public-List <public-list at lists.alberg30.org>
>>> To: Wes Gardner <wesgardner1952 at gmail.com>; Alberg 30 Public List -- open to
>>> all <public-list at lists.alberg30.org>
>>> Cc: Jim Davis <a30240 at earthlink.net>
>>> Sent: Friday, August 21, 2015 11:21 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [Public-List] Motor Replacement continued
>>> 
>>> Wes,
>>> 
>>> If you would like to see a Yanmar 2GM20F installed in a 1967 Alberg, please
>>> let me know.  There is one aboard #262.
>>> The new Yanmar's, 2YM15 and 3YM20, have the raw water pump installed with
>>> the impeller facing forward and accessible.  Previously you had to remove
>>> the pump from the engine to access the impeller.  The oil dipstick has been
>>> relocated to the front side of the engine from the starboard side.  On the
>>> other hand, the position of the oil filter is worse, seems to be back where
>>> the oil dip stick was.
>>> 
>>> Was wondering which boat you had.  Tried to find you in the A30BoatHistory
>>> spreadsheet without success.
>>> 
>>> Jonathan
>>> 
>>> On Fri, Aug 21, 2015 at 10:55 AM, Wes Gardner via Public-List <
>>> public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Oh, by the way, my boat is a non-liner boat built in '67-#196, so I can
>>>> assume that at one point it did have the Atomic4, it still has the shift
>>>> linkage cross-brace back behind the motor.
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>> 
>>>>>> On Aug 20, 2015, at 5:48 PM, Fraser Kittson via Public-List <
>>>>> public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> My 1978 A30 came factory with a Volvo MD7A if you can find on there a
>>>> great motor. Drops rite in.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Fraser Kittson
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Aug 20, 2015, at 4:40 PM, Jim Davis via Public-List <
>>>> public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> A few thoughts on replacement engines.  Back when I owned #240 I put a
>>>>>> Yanmar 2GM in it.  This works well on the pre-liner boats, but on a
>>>>>> liner boat the engine room pan gets in the way as the Yanmar is too
>>>>>> deep.  Westerbeake and Beta are a better option in the liner boats and
>>>>>> if I were to do a repower today I would go with the Beta.  Both
>>>>>> Westerbeake and Beta are as near drop in replacements for the Atomic 4
>>>>>> as you will find and are made on the same Kabota block.  When I did my
>>>>>> repower Beta was the "new kid on the block", but they have now been
>>>>>> around for a couple decades and actively marketing their product.
>>>>>> http://www.betamarinenc.com/
>>>>>> http://www.westerbeke.com/pages/westerbekeengines.htm
>>>>>> Jim Davis
>>>>>> Privateer Isa Lei
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> If man does find the solution for world peace it will be the most
>>>> revolutionary
>>>>>> reversal of his record we have ever known.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> George C. Marshall
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Message: 2
>>>>>> Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2015 11:37:40 -0400
>>>>>> From: Jonathan Bresler via Public-List
>>>>>>     <public-list at lists.alberg30.org>
>>>>>> To: Wes Gardner <wesgardner1952 at gmail.com>
>>>>>> Cc: Alberg 30 Public List -- open to all
>>>>>>     <public-list at lists.alberg30.org>
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Public-List] Motor Replacement continued
>>>>>> Message-ID:
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>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Wes,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Don't know what other folks have.
>>>>>> #262 has a Yanmar 2GM20F installed by the previous owner, Tom Baker.
>>>> Tom
>>>>>> got two from Florida
>>>>>> #11 (?) Woody has the other 2GM20F from Tom, as far as I know.
>>>>>> #247 and #550, which I am familiar with from racing on them, both have
>>>>>> Atomic 4's
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Jonathan
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Wed, Aug 19, 2015 at 5:14 PM, Wes Gardner <wesgardner1952 at gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> That sounds correct...I'd just make doubly sure that your oil pressure
>>>>>>> gauge sender and the one for the alarm (if so installed) are all
>>>> properly
>>>>>>> done. This will include ALL blocks built outside of the States.  By the
>>>>>>> way, what motor do most folks have (other than the original A4)?  I may
>>>>>>> have to consider an alternative if mine can't be rebuilt.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Wed, Aug 19, 2015 at 3:21 PM, Jonathan Bresler <
>>>> 262alberg30 at gmail.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Seems that Catalina folk have run into the problem of threads sizes as
>>>>>>>> well as wanting a gauge vs a normally-closed switch.
>>>>>>>> [1]
>>>> http://www.catalinadirect.com/index.cfm/product/3288/oil-pressure-sender-f
>>>>>> or-yanmar-diesels.cfm
>>>>>>>> From looking around a bit it appears that VDO calls the type with two
>>>>>>>> electrical terminals "floating ground" switch as opposed to "standard
>>>>>>>> ground" (shorted to engine block).
>>>>>>>> [2]
>>>> http://www.vdo-instruments.com/sensors/pressure-sensors-switches.html
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Jonathan
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Wed, Aug 19, 2015 at 3:12 PM, Wes Gardner <
>>>> wesgardner1952 at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Good article...could have saved me several grand.  A note about the
>>>> oil
>>>>>>>>> pressure sender, when it blows out of the side of the motor, no
>>>> alarm will
>>>>>>>>> sound because it needs the ground from the nipple.  The way to avoid
>>>> this
>>>>>>>>> is to get a sender that has TWO terminals and ground the ground to
>>>> the
>>>>>>>>> motor somewhere, that way, when your sender blows out of the side of
>>>> the
>>>>>>>>> motor, you'll get an alarm (if it's hooked up)...mine was also not
>>>> hooked
>>>>>>>>> up but wouldn't have worked anyway...
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Aug 19, 2015 at 2:43 PM, Jonathan Bresler <
>>>> 262alberg30 at gmail.com
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Ouch!
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Was reading earlier this week about a oil pressure senders and the
>>>>>>>>>> different threads involved.  1/8" NPT vs 1/8 PT on a Yanmar engine.
>>>>>>>>>> [3]
>>>> http://www.oceannavigator.com/September-2011/Upgrading-Yanmar-oil-pressu
>>>>>> re-gauge-and-sender/
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Jonathan
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> References
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 1.
>>>> http://www.catalinadirect.com/index.cfm/product/3288/oil-pressure-sender-for
>>>> -yanmar-diesels.cfm
>>>>>> 2.
>>>> http://www.vdo-instruments.com/sensors/pressure-sensors-switches.html
>>>>>> 3.
>>>> http://www.oceannavigator.com/September-2011/Upgrading-Yanmar-oil-pressure-g
>>>> auge-and-sender/
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>>> -- 
>>> Jonathan M Bresler
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>>> Annapolis/Eastport MD
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