[Public-List] Gimbaled stove was electric drive
Kris Coward via Public-List
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Thu Jul 9 06:35:01 PDT 2015
Well if makes you feel any better, I was originally looking at Corvettes
and Alberg 30s, but after I found that the first Corvette I looked at had
its speedy little swing keel rusted in place )halfway between up and
down)--well I'm here and not on the Corvette list, no?
-Kris
On Thu, Jul 09, 2015 at 08:48:18AM -0400, Gordon Laco via Public-List wrote:
> Good morning Chip -
>
> The bunk arrangement you describe below is similar to how the Corvette's
> interior is set up. One of the berths is joggled forward into a 'box' built
> into the bulkhead, allowing the galley to grow forward a bit. You can
> probably find drawings on line for the Corvette 31. The Corvette is the
> smaller sister to the Frigate, a 36 footer, both named for the Canadian
> warship classes in the Battle of the Atlantic. Who today knows that the
> Corvette car was named for a class of Canadian/British warship?
>
> Corvettes are good boats, but of course I used to hate them when I was a kid
> racing in the Toronto Alberg 30 one-design fleet... They are full keeled
> yachts with moderate overhangs like ours, but they have a secret below the
> waterline. The full keel is shallow and houses a deep centreboard. Those
> boats were damned fast downwind with the board up and went to windward like
> witches with the board down. They've got about 10% more waterline and sail
> area than an Alberg 30 but displace about 1,000lbs less. I hated
> them....and now you've reminded me of their very clever bunk/galley
> arrangement... hmph
>
> Gord
> #426 Surprise
>
>
> On 09/07/15 12:40 AM, "Chip Dance via Public-List"
> <public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
>
> > Apologies to the group for going of topic in my previous post, I thought I
> > was only replying to one of the other posters.
>
> Kris
> My idea (currently only
> > in my head, no measurements or research) is to modify the hanging locker to
> > allow the starboard settee to extend into/under the locker, keeping the
> > locker mostly usable, and the settee roughly the same sleeping length. The
> > settee would appear shorter, but ideally would still function as a full
> > length birth when the occupant is laying down. I've been casually
> > watching/searching for gimballed stoves that seem small, but I haven't even
> > measured the width of the locker to get an idea of roughly how small the stove
> > would need to be too make this all work.
>
> Chip Dance
> s/v Natalie
> > B
> #456
>
> Sent using a stone tablet and chisel.
>
>
> -------- Original message
> > --------
> From: Kris Coward <kris at melon.org>
> Date: 07/08/2015 9:14 AM
> > (GMT-07:00)
> To: Chip Dance <chipdance01 at gmail.com>, Alberg 30 Public List --
> > open to all <public-list at lists.alberg30.org>
> Subject: Re: [Public-List]
> > Electric Drive
>
> Although I generally consider gimballing on stoves to be a
> > Good Idea, I
> spent a good year or two trying to figure out where to install an
> > oven
> on Candy Cane, before settling on the location of the icebox,
> > and
> building a new fridge around the sink and related plumbing on the
> > other
> side of the galley. That said, I'd placed a pretty high priority
> > on
> keeping both of the settees in the saloon usable as bunks (and a
> > lower
> priority on keeping the wet locker). I can send you pictures if
> > you're
> interested.
>
> Cheers,
> Kris
>
> On Wed, Jul 08, 2015 at 08:00:45AM -0600,
> > Chip Dance via Public-List wrote:
> > Hello Richard
> > Last night I read through
> > your refitting into the blue blog. I'd love to read/see more about your boat,
> > the electric engine, the composting head and more. How it is set up, your
> > decision making process, how happy you've been with your choices in the years
> > since the refit, etc.
> >
> > We recently purchased #456, with the intention of
> > refitting for extended cruising. She came to us with no engine and a
> > port-a-potty, so we will kind of be starting from scratch. I like the idea
> > of the composting head and the electric engine. I also want to upgrade the
> > galley to include a gimballed stove with oven, a cabin heater, a shower in
> > the head and probably a water maker and water heater. Have you installed or
> > considered any of those systems?
> >
> > The only other boat we have owned, or
> > spent any time aboard is a lightweight trailer weekender, a MacGregor Venture
> > 25. We have zero experience with systems found on larger boats like the A30,
> > so our refit plans are based purely on dreams and speculation. We would love
> > to hear from someone who has experienced both sides of the coin.
> >
> > Fare
> > winds and following seas,
> > Chip Dance
> > s/v Natalie B #456
> >
> > Sent using
> > a stone tablet and chisel.
> >
> >
> > -------- Original message --------
> > From:
> > Richard Mair via Public-List <public-list at lists.alberg30.org>
> > Date:
> > 07/07/2015 6:06 PM (GMT-07:00)
> > To: Alberg 30 Public List -- open to all
> > <public-list at lists.alberg30.org>, Andrew Johns <johnsab9 at gmail.com>
> >
> > Subject: Re: [Public-List] Electric Drive
> >
> > We have an electric drive on
> > 609 Into The Blue. We absolutely love it. We
> > have the Electric Yacht
> > 100ibl.
> > This is actually smaller than the recommended system for our
> > displacement
> > but it works great. On the advice of the electric forum we went
> > to a 3
> > blade prop.
> > Running a 3 blade 13 by 12 we can do 3.3 knots with
> > only 16 amp draw at 48
> > volt system. 200 amp hours gives us 5 hours run to
> > 50% discharge. The
> > current draw goes up against current. Now that we are day
> > sailing it is
> > really nice to be able to start and end trips with no noise
> > and vibration.
> > The drawback is range if you are in a hurry but we extended
> > that with a
> > Honda generator when coming up the St.Lawrence in 2013.
> >
> > Willing to answer any questions you may have. Would never go back to a
> >
> > diesel.
> > On Jul 6, 2015 10:19 AM, "Andrew Johns via Public-List" <
> >
> > public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
> >
> > > Hi Everyone,
> > >
> > > Has anyone
> > on the list converted an A30 to electric drive? I'm liking the
> > > idea of
> > getting the noisy diesel out of the boat.
> > >
> > > What sort of experiences
> > have people had?
> > >
> > >
> > > - Andrew
> > >
> > > 1965 A30 #104 "Ecola"
> > > Lake
> > Champlain , VT
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