[Public-List] Gimbaled stove was electric drive

MG via Public-List public-list at lists.alberg30.org
Thu Jul 9 12:29:28 PDT 2015


With regret I have decided to sell our 1975 Alberg 30.  It is
presently near Barrie Ontario Canada (outside of Toronto, ON Canada)
A 2014 Survey is available.  The significant concerns, although really not
a problem, have been addressed.   It was fully restored about 5 years ago
as the survey reflects.   It has been owned by our family since 1975.  It
has only sailed in fresh water on Lake Simcoe Ontario.  The survey suggests
the market value to be $15,000.00.
the boat has both a small genny and a geno in good condition..  Self
furling jib. All sailboat related items are included.

We have been sailing the boat all summer.  No significant work would be
required.

Please do not hesitate to contact me.

Survey attached.

Mark

On Thu, Jul 9, 2015 at 9:35 AM, Kris Coward via Public-List <
public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:

>
> Well if makes you feel any better, I was originally looking at Corvettes
> and Alberg 30s, but after I found that the first Corvette I looked at had
> its speedy little swing keel rusted in place )halfway between up and
> down)--well I'm here and not on the Corvette list, no?
>
> -Kris
>
> On Thu, Jul 09, 2015 at 08:48:18AM -0400, Gordon Laco via Public-List
> wrote:
> > Good morning Chip -
> >
> > The bunk arrangement you describe below is similar to how the Corvette's
> > interior is set up.  One of the berths is joggled forward into a 'box'
> built
> > into the bulkhead, allowing the galley to grow forward a bit.  You can
> > probably find drawings on line for the Corvette 31.  The Corvette is the
> > smaller sister to the Frigate, a 36 footer, both named for the Canadian
> > warship classes in the Battle of the Atlantic. Who today knows that the
> > Corvette car was named for a class of Canadian/British warship?
> >
> > Corvettes are good boats, but of course I used to hate them when I was a
> kid
> > racing in the Toronto Alberg 30 one-design fleet...  They are full keeled
> > yachts with moderate overhangs like ours, but they have a secret below
> the
> > waterline.  The full keel is shallow and houses a deep centreboard.
> Those
> > boats were damned fast downwind with the board up and went to windward
> like
> > witches with the board down.  They've got about 10% more waterline and
> sail
> > area than an Alberg 30 but displace about 1,000lbs less.  I hated
> > them....and now you've reminded me of their very clever bunk/galley
> > arrangement... hmph
> >
> > Gord
> > #426 Surprise
> >
> >
> > On 09/07/15 12:40 AM, "Chip Dance via Public-List"
> > <public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
> >
> > > Apologies to the group for going of topic in my previous post,  I
> thought I
> > > was only replying to one of the other posters.
> >
> > Kris
> > My idea (currently only
> > > in my head,  no measurements or research)  is to modify the hanging
> locker to
> > > allow the starboard settee to extend into/under the locker,  keeping
> the
> > > locker mostly usable,  and the settee roughly the same sleeping
> length. The
> > > settee would appear shorter,  but ideally would still function as a
> full
> > > length birth when the occupant is laying down. I've been casually
> > > watching/searching for gimballed stoves that seem small,  but I
> haven't even
> > > measured the width of the locker to get an idea of roughly how small
> the stove
> > > would need to be too make this all work.
> >
> > Chip Dance
> > s/v Natalie
> > > B
> > #456
> >
> > Sent using a stone tablet and chisel.
> >
> >
> > -------- Original message
> > > --------
> > From: Kris Coward <kris at melon.org>
> > Date: 07/08/2015  9:14 AM
> > > (GMT-07:00)
> > To: Chip Dance <chipdance01 at gmail.com>, Alberg 30 Public List --
> > > open to all <public-list at lists.alberg30.org>
> > Subject: Re: [Public-List]
> > > Electric Drive
> >
> > Although I generally consider gimballing on stoves to be a
> > > Good Idea, I
> > spent a good year or two trying to figure out where to install an
> > > oven
> > on Candy Cane, before settling on the location of the icebox,
> > > and
> > building a new fridge around the sink and related plumbing on the
> > > other
> > side of the galley. That said, I'd placed a pretty high priority
> > > on
> > keeping both of the settees in the saloon usable as bunks (and a
> > > lower
> > priority on keeping the wet locker). I can send you pictures if
> > > you're
> > interested.
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Kris
> >
> > On Wed, Jul 08, 2015 at 08:00:45AM -0600,
> > > Chip Dance via Public-List wrote:
> > > Hello Richard
> > > Last night I read through
> > > your refitting into the blue blog. I'd love to read/see more about
> your boat,
> > > the electric engine,  the composting head and more. How it is set up,
> your
> > > decision making process,  how happy you've been with your choices in
> the years
> > > since the refit,  etc.
> > >
> > > We recently purchased #456, with the intention of
> > > refitting for extended cruising. She came to us with no engine and a
> > > port-a-potty,  so we will kind of be starting from scratch.  I like
> the idea
> > > of the composting head and the electric engine.  I also want to
> upgrade the
> > > galley to include a gimballed stove with oven,  a cabin heater,  a
> shower in
> > > the head and probably a water maker and water heater. Have you
> installed or
> > > considered any of those systems?
> > >
> > > The only other boat we have owned,  or
> > > spent any time aboard is a lightweight trailer weekender,  a MacGregor
> Venture
> > > 25. We have zero experience with systems found on larger boats like
> the A30,
> > > so our refit plans are based purely on dreams and speculation.  We
> would love
> > > to hear from someone who has experienced both sides of the coin.
> > >
> > > Fare
> > > winds and following seas,
> > > Chip Dance
> > > s/v Natalie B #456
> > >
> > > Sent using
> > > a stone tablet and chisel.
> > >
> > >
> > > -------- Original message --------
> > > From:
> > > Richard Mair via Public-List <public-list at lists.alberg30.org>
> > > Date:
> > > 07/07/2015 6:06 PM (GMT-07:00)
> > > To: Alberg 30 Public List -- open to all
> > > <public-list at lists.alberg30.org>, Andrew Johns <johnsab9 at gmail.com>
> > >
> > > Subject: Re: [Public-List] Electric Drive
> > >
> > > We have an electric drive on
> > > 609 Into The Blue. We absolutely love it. We
> > > have the Electric Yacht
> > > 100ibl.
> > > This is actually smaller than the recommended system for our
> > > displacement
> > > but it works great. On the advice of the electric forum we went
> > > to a 3
> > > blade prop.
> > > Running a 3 blade 13 by 12 we can do 3.3 knots with
> > > only 16 amp draw at 48
> > > volt system. 200 amp hours gives us 5 hours run to
> > > 50% discharge. The
> > > current draw goes up against current. Now that we are day
> > > sailing it is
> > > really nice to be able to start and end trips with no noise
> > > and vibration.
> > > The drawback is range if you are in a hurry but we extended
> > > that with a
> > > Honda generator when coming up the St.Lawrence in 2013.
> > >
> > > Willing to answer any questions you may have. Would never go back to a
> > >
> > > diesel.
> > > On Jul 6, 2015 10:19 AM, "Andrew Johns via Public-List" <
> > >
> > > public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hi Everyone,
> > > >
> > > > Has anyone
> > > on the list converted an A30 to electric drive? I'm liking the
> > > > idea of
> > > getting the noisy diesel out of the boat.
> > > >
> > > > What sort of experiences
> > > have people had?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > - Andrew
> > > >
> > > > 1965 A30 #104 "Ecola"
> > > > Lake
> > > Champlain , VT
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