[Public-List] Standing rigging

Mon May 25 15:00:35 PDT 2015

Hello again

The issue is with the toggle at the top, seems none exist that can fit in the masthead casting.  They are not long enough and too thick.  So i think i will use a combination much to what both Gord and Glenn propose swage eyes and extensions.  Should be better then the current forestay that has a broken strand between thimble and nicropress, that needs to go.

Thanks for all your help,

Maurice 
Avoca #322

The swage
> Le 2015-05-24 à 13:09, Gordon Laco <mainstay at csolve.net> a écrit :
> 
> Just a thought...
> 
> We commonly supply stays and shrouds with the top end terminated with a
> swaged eye... the bottom a couple of feet long and a swageless stud for the
> turnbuckle.  The owner can then easily attach the top end (saving the cost
> of the swageless fitting there) then cut the lower end to the right length
> using the old stay as a pattern.  The swageless terminal can be fitted on
> using a couple of wrenches.  I like them a lot.
> 
> On the fore stay, it is a good idea to have a toggle up at the top in
> addition to the usual one at the bottom if the yacht is fitted with a
> furler...
> 
> Gord #426 Surprise
> 
> 
>> On 24/05/15 11:21 AM, "Gordon Laco" <mainstay at csolve.net> wrote:
>> 
>> Good morning,
>> 
>> There's a very good marine store near the Britannia Yacht Club called The
>> Chandlery you probably already know... They can get or make whatever you need.
>> They carry StaLock and Blue Wave swageless terminals.  Hi Mod are not widely
>> used here on Canada.
>> 
>> I'm one of their suppliers; if the person you deal with there isn't familiar
>> with what you need, let me know, I can help break the log jam.
>> 
>> Gord #426 Surprise.
>> 
>> On 2015-05-24, at 9:32 AM, Christine + Maurice via Public-List
>> <public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
>> 
>>> Hello again,
>>> 
>>> Thank you Glenn this is exactly the predicament i am in.  I guess I have the
>>> original setup! It would be great if anyone knows where to secure a 7/16
>>> toggle about 3 inches in length, I'm located in Ottawa Ontario.  Otherwise,
>>> we will likely go with a tang or flat bar route Glenn is suggesting that
>>> should work.  I never thought about the staloc will mention that to the
>>> rigger!  Anyone with more input would be welcomed!
>>> 
>>> Thanks all!
>>> 
>>> Maurice
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> Le 2015-05-24 à 03:25, Glenn Brooks via Public-List
>>>> <public-list at lists.alberg30.org> a écrit :
>>>> 
>>>> I didn't explain very well previously, but as I recall from several years
>>>> ago, the hi-mod fittings I used were to thick in cross section to fit
>>>> between the the prongs of the original mast head casting - where the 1/2"
>>>> pin mounts.  I resolved the non-fit problem by grinding down the thickness
>>>> of the hi mod terminal,ends to slip into the existing two arms of the mast
>>>> head casting.  The  local riggers were aghast of course, but the remaining
>>>> 7/16" stainless fitting had something like 35000 # breaking strength some
>>>> felt safe enough doing so.  Couple years later I had the entire mast head
>>>> replaced with a custom 3 sheeve mast head, with welded aluminum tangs for
>>>> both forestry and backstay, so got rid of the original mast head fitting
>>>> entirely. Well not entirely, it's still in my shop awaiting s new home...
>>>> 
>>>> But, to be super safe, make up the short 3" extension to allow the forestry
>>>> and backstay to connect to the masthead without getting jammed into the to
>>>> skinny  space where the existing 1/2" pin fits. You don't need a swivel at
>>>> the masthead, so long as the pin allows the stays to flex in the vertical
>>>> plane....
>>>> 
>>>> The other thing about hi mods or sta loc is that they seem to be very common
>>>> these days via mail order, and can be installed by anyone.
>>>> 
>>>> Hope this is a better explanation than what I wrote the first time.
>>>> 
>>>> Glenn B
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>> 
>>>>> On May 23, 2015, at 9:11 PM, Gordon Laco via Public-List
>>>>> <public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Good evening friends
>>>>> 
>>>>> Glenn's on the right track; and 1/2" pin fittings should be very common.
>>>>> Where are you located? Perhaps we can direct you to a supplier
>>>>> 
>>>>> Gord
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 2015-05-23, at 8:01 PM, Christine + Maurice via Public-List
>>>>>> <public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hello looking for assistance with rigging.  I am having the fore stay and
>>>>>> back stay replaced and the rigger does not want to replace with thimble
>>>>>> and nicropress as original.  Rigger is suggesting a toggle on the 1/2 pin
>>>>>> at masthead and attached to a swage terminal. Which creates a universal
>>>>>> joint.   Problem is we are having a hard time sourcing this hardware. My
>>>>>> Alberg  seems to have the original setup.  Any guidance on how you have
>>>>>> your rigging secured at the mast head would be greatly appreciated.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Maurice 
>>>>>> Avoca #322
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
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