[Public-List] V-Berth Shelving

[Jason S via Public-List]

Wes, I'd take pics put my shelf are out. I may have sold old one from when
purchased the boat....my Alberg still has original chainplate bolts.

Jason
#457
On Apr 21, 2016 5:21 PM, "Wes Gardner via Public-List" <
public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:

> Pictures are always good...
>
> On Thu, Apr 21, 2016 at 5:08 PM, Greg Hounsell <greg.hounsell at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Hmm very confusing as that is exactly what mine looks like on hull 592
> and
> > the lovely white pegboard below. ... but I have a liner hull..
> >
> >
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> >
> >
> > -------- Original message --------
> > From: Wes Gardner via Public-List
> > Date:04-21-2016 11:21 AM (GMT-05:00)
> > To: Jason S , Alberg 30 Public List -- open to all
> > Subject: Re: [Public-List] V-Berth Shelving
> >
> > Hi All,
> >
> > Here's my knee/shelf/hull...all glassed together, hull #196
> >
> > https://www.dropbox.com/s/gv4nta94lhl3se3/Knee.jpg?dl=0
> >
> > Wes
> >
> > On Thu, Apr 21, 2016 at 9:48 AM, Jason S via Public-List <
> > public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
> >
> > > No dimples on my liner boat. But I do know what you speak of. Hull 449
> > also
> > > a liner boat had them.
> > > My hull 457 did not have the dimples and the shelves were at best
> tacked
> > > into place.
> > >
> > > Either way when I put refit v berth they will definitely become a
> > > supporting structure as they will be properly glassed and fitted
> together
> > >
> > > Jason
> > > #457
> > > On Apr 21, 2016 8:57 AM, "via Public-List" <
> > public-list at lists.alberg30.org
> > > >
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > The shelves in the forward cabin are most definitely secondary
> > structural
> > > > supports. If you sight down the outside of a liner boat and pay
> > > particular
> > > > attention to the cove stripe in the area of the foward knees, you
> will
> > > see
> > > > a prominent dimple in the hull at that spot. That is because the
> > shelves
> > > > were not glassed, to the hull like they were in the pre-liner boats.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Mike Lehman
> > > >
> > > > ~~/)~/)~~
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Wed, Apr 20, 2016 at 1:06 PM -0700, "Wes Gardner via Public-List"
> <
> > > > public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I think just by nature of there being a liner that no, the furniture
> > like
> > > > shelves, will not be structural. I'm not familiar at all with the
> liner
> > > > boats but the non-liner boats tie everything (knees/shelf/hull)
> > together
> > > > with glass tape.
> > > >
> > > > On Wed, Apr 20, 2016 at 3:55 PM, Stephen gwyn via Public-List <
> > > > public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Hi,
> > > > >
> > > > > I'm not convinced the shelves are structural, at least on a liner
> > > > > boat. Or at least on my boat (#495). There's a single bit of
> > > > > glass tape. The wood is attached to the tape with pop rivets.
> > > > > Maybe there was a bond between the glass and the wood
> > > > > at one point, but 40 years of wet/dry expansion/contraction
> > > > > cycling have killed it. Polyester to wood is only temporary.
> > > > >
> > > > > The forward lower knees are not integrated with the shelves,
> > > > > again not on my boat at least.
> > > > >
> > > > > There is a longitudinal stiffener in the liner. It's the triangular
> > > > > shelf thing which forms the edge of the under-berth compartment
> > > > > of the V-berth, the support for the shelves in the cupboards,
> > > > > the bottom of the compartment behind the seats in the main
> > > > > cabin, and the not-very-useful shelf in the cockpit lockers.
> > > > >
> > > > > SG
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
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