[Public-List] V-Berth Shelving

[Chip Dance via Public-List]

I agree.  If you will be tabbing and painting,  why spend the extra money.  For that matter,  is marine ply even necessary?  

Slightly of topic,  but is marine ply necessary of one will be completely coating it in glass and /or epoxy? I'm thinking for stringers and bulkheads. 


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From: Amy & David Swanson via Public-List <public-list at lists.alberg30.org> 
Date: 04/20/2016  4:36 PM  (GMT-07:00) 
To: public-list at lists.alberg30.org 
Subject: Re: [Public-List] V-Berth Shelving 

ON 229 (pre-liner), the shelves were not tied to the chain plates nor 
glassed to the hull, they were screwed into small blocks of wood that 
were glued to the hull.  They were 3/8" plywood.  I replaced the fiddle 
with varnished pine about 1/4" thick that a woodworking friend had as 
spare.  I wouldn't spend extra money for sapale or okume if you are 
painting them, but that's me.

On 4/20/2016 5:18 PM, Jason S via Public-List wrote:
> I believe they could if you bothered to tied them into the chainplate knee
> and glassed them in well where the attached to the bulkheads and hull. In
> factory form not sure how much support they offer
> On Apr 20, 2016 5:15 PM, "Justin Riddle via Public-List" <
> public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
>
>> Hmm, so realistically glassing a shelf into the hull won't give me much
>> additional structural strength. Good to know, thanks!
>>
>> Justin
>> On Apr 20, 2016 4:06 PM, "Wes Gardner via Public-List" <
>> public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
>>
>>> I think just by nature of there being a liner that no, the furniture like
>>> shelves, will not be structural. I'm not familiar at all with the liner
>>> boats but the non-liner boats tie everything (knees/shelf/hull) together
>>> with glass tape.
>>>
>>> On Wed, Apr 20, 2016 at 3:55 PM, Stephen gwyn via Public-List <
>>> public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> I'm not convinced the shelves are structural, at least on a liner
>>>> boat. Or at least on my boat (#495). There's a single bit of
>>>> glass tape. The wood is attached to the tape with pop rivets.
>>>> Maybe there was a bond between the glass and the wood
>>>> at one point, but 40 years of wet/dry expansion/contraction
>>>> cycling have killed it. Polyester to wood is only temporary.
>>>>
>>>> The forward lower knees are not integrated with the shelves,
>>>> again not on my boat at least.
>>>>
>>>> There is a longitudinal stiffener in the liner. It's the triangular
>>>> shelf thing which forms the edge of the under-berth compartment
>>>> of the V-berth, the support for the shelves in the cupboards,
>>>> the bottom of the compartment behind the seats in the main
>>>> cabin, and the not-very-useful shelf in the cockpit lockers.
>>>>
>>>> SG
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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