[Public-List] V-Berth Shelving

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Thanks for the picture!
Exactly the same on #272

Mike

> On Apr 21, 2016, at 11:21 AM, Wes Gardner via Public-List <public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
> 
> Hi All,
> 
> Here's my knee/shelf/hull...all glassed together, hull #196
> 
> https://www.dropbox.com/s/gv4nta94lhl3se3/Knee.jpg?dl=0
> 
> Wes
> 
> On Thu, Apr 21, 2016 at 9:48 AM, Jason S via Public-List <
> public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
> 
>> No dimples on my liner boat. But I do know what you speak of. Hull 449 also
>> a liner boat had them.
>> My hull 457 did not have the dimples and the shelves were at best tacked
>> into place.
>> 
>> Either way when I put refit v berth they will definitely become a
>> supporting structure as they will be properly glassed and fitted together
>> 
>> Jason
>> #457
>> On Apr 21, 2016 8:57 AM, "via Public-List" <public-list at lists.alberg30.org
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> The shelves in the forward cabin are most definitely secondary structural
>>> supports. If you sight down the outside of a liner boat and pay
>> particular
>>> attention to the cove stripe in the area of the foward knees, you will
>> see
>>> a prominent dimple in the hull at that spot. That is because the shelves
>>> were not glassed, to the hull like they were in the pre-liner boats.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Mike Lehman
>>> 
>>> ~~/)~/)~~
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Wed, Apr 20, 2016 at 1:06 PM -0700, "Wes Gardner via Public-List" <
>>> public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I think just by nature of there being a liner that no, the furniture like
>>> shelves, will not be structural. I'm not familiar at all with the liner
>>> boats but the non-liner boats tie everything (knees/shelf/hull) together
>>> with glass tape.
>>> 
>>> On Wed, Apr 20, 2016 at 3:55 PM, Stephen gwyn via Public-List <
>>> public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Hi,
>>>> 
>>>> I'm not convinced the shelves are structural, at least on a liner
>>>> boat. Or at least on my boat (#495). There's a single bit of
>>>> glass tape. The wood is attached to the tape with pop rivets.
>>>> Maybe there was a bond between the glass and the wood
>>>> at one point, but 40 years of wet/dry expansion/contraction
>>>> cycling have killed it. Polyester to wood is only temporary.
>>>> 
>>>> The forward lower knees are not integrated with the shelves,
>>>> again not on my boat at least.
>>>> 
>>>> There is a longitudinal stiffener in the liner. It's the triangular
>>>> shelf thing which forms the edge of the under-berth compartment
>>>> of the V-berth, the support for the shelves in the cupboards,
>>>> the bottom of the compartment behind the seats in the main
>>>> cabin, and the not-very-useful shelf in the cockpit lockers.
>>>> 
>>>> SG
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
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