[Public-List] V-Berth Shelving

[Wes Gardner via Public-List]

Hi All,

Here's my knee/shelf/hull...all glassed together, hull #196

https://www.dropbox.com/s/gv4nta94lhl3se3/Knee.jpg?dl=0

Wes

On Thu, Apr 21, 2016 at 9:48 AM, Jason S via Public-List <
public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:

> No dimples on my liner boat. But I do know what you speak of. Hull 449 also
> a liner boat had them.
> My hull 457 did not have the dimples and the shelves were at best tacked
> into place.
>
> Either way when I put refit v berth they will definitely become a
> supporting structure as they will be properly glassed and fitted together
>
> Jason
> #457
> On Apr 21, 2016 8:57 AM, "via Public-List" <public-list at lists.alberg30.org
> >
> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > The shelves in the forward cabin are most definitely secondary structural
> > supports. If you sight down the outside of a liner boat and pay
> particular
> > attention to the cove stripe in the area of the foward knees, you will
> see
> > a prominent dimple in the hull at that spot. That is because the shelves
> > were not glassed, to the hull like they were in the pre-liner boats.
> >
> >
> > Mike Lehman
> >
> > ~~/)~/)~~
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Apr 20, 2016 at 1:06 PM -0700, "Wes Gardner via Public-List" <
> > public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > I think just by nature of there being a liner that no, the furniture like
> > shelves, will not be structural. I'm not familiar at all with the liner
> > boats but the non-liner boats tie everything (knees/shelf/hull) together
> > with glass tape.
> >
> > On Wed, Apr 20, 2016 at 3:55 PM, Stephen gwyn via Public-List <
> > public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
> >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > I'm not convinced the shelves are structural, at least on a liner
> > > boat. Or at least on my boat (#495). There's a single bit of
> > > glass tape. The wood is attached to the tape with pop rivets.
> > > Maybe there was a bond between the glass and the wood
> > > at one point, but 40 years of wet/dry expansion/contraction
> > > cycling have killed it. Polyester to wood is only temporary.
> > >
> > > The forward lower knees are not integrated with the shelves,
> > > again not on my boat at least.
> > >
> > > There is a longitudinal stiffener in the liner. It's the triangular
> > > shelf thing which forms the edge of the under-berth compartment
> > > of the V-berth, the support for the shelves in the cupboards,
> > > the bottom of the compartment behind the seats in the main
> > > cabin, and the not-very-useful shelf in the cockpit lockers.
> > >
> > > SG
> > >
> > >
> > >
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