[Public-List] furling gear and spinnaker halyard
George Dinwiddie via Public-List
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Fri Jun 24 09:39:47 PDT 2016
Wes,
Is that U-bolt holding the spinnaker halyard? If so, what size is it?
And may I post this photo on the website?
- George
On 6/24/16 12:30 PM, Wes Gardner wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> Here's a pic of my crane. I just bought an asym that I'm messing with.
>
> https://www.dropbox.com/s/u9yoye1486z6ywh/Spin%20Halyard%20Crane.jpg?dl=0
>
> On Fri, Jun 24, 2016 at 12:26 PM, George Dinwiddie via Public-List
> <public-list at lists.alberg30.org <mailto:public-list at lists.alberg30.org>>
> wrote:
>
> Gord,
>
> Send it to me, also, and I'll add it to the website.
>
> - George
>
>
> On 6/24/16 11:45 AM, Gordon Laco via Public-List wrote:
>
> Hello Hernan,
>
> I do; will send tonight when I'm back in my hotel. It looks a
> little industrial; but its small and strong... And when it's 36'
> up in the air it just looks like a little shiny thing ...
>
> G
>
> On 2016-06-24, at 11:40 AM, Hernán Scarnichia
> <hernanscar at gmail.com <mailto:hernanscar at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> Gordon,
> Do you have any pics that you could post of your custom crane?
> How did you attach it to the mast head?
> Hernan
>
> On Jun 24, 2016 6:41 AM, "Gordon Laco via Public-List"
> <public-list at lists.alberg30.org
> <mailto:public-list at lists.alberg30.org>> wrote:
>
> I built a spin halyard crane for Surprise's halyard.
> Holds halyard block a few inches forward of the stay as
> is more normal in other classes. Works very well.
>
> Gord 426 Surprise.
>
> On 2016-06-24, at 10:34 AM, via Public-List
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>
> When we raced J Bergquist's Calliope with a racing
> Genoa on the foil, we led the spin halyard around
> the backside of the port side spreader, to a loop
> attached to the base of the turnbuckle. We could
> tension it up after cleaning up upwind. We never
> rolled the jib during sail changes.
>
>
> Mike
>
> Michael J. Meinhold
> meinhold272 at gmail.com <mailto:meinhold272 at gmail.com>
> / 301 852 0619 <tel:301%20852%200619>
>
> On Jun 24, 2016, at 9:35 AM, Jonathan Bresler
> via Public-List <public-list at lists.alberg30.org
> <mailto:public-list at lists.alberg30.org>> wrote:
>
> Charles,
>
> A halyard that is parallel to the forestay is in
> danger of being wrapped
> around the forestay by a roller furler.
> The forces can be great enough to break the
> forestay as Kris related
> above. From what I've read, it appears
> that the halyard should be angled of 5 to 10
> degrees aft from the stay
> starting at the top swivel. The "restrainer"
> should be attached to mast in order to achieve
> that angle.
>
> Brion Toss writes "A furler's halyard swivel is
> a wonderful device,
> enabling you to adjust halyard tension, even if
> the sail is furled. But it
> is also a tremendous Achilles heel, the source
> of the majority of the
> furler problems we see in our shop. For example,
> if the halyard leads too
> close to the foil, and especially if the halyard
> is slack, it can get
> caught up on the foil while you are setting or
> furling the sail. This is
> the terrible "halyard wrap" that can make it
> impossible for the furler to
> rotate, or for the sail to go up or down. And it
> can damage or destroy the
> foil, the wire, and the halyard. Accordingly,
> every manufacturer that has a
> halyard swivel is extremely emphatic on proper
> halyard lead and tension, as
> well as optimal swivel height. Particulars vary,
> but the general idea is to
> have the top of the swivel just a few inches
> below the top of the foil, and
> to have the halyard angled slightly aft from the
> swivel. Profurl handles
> both these details with their "Wrapstop", a
> Darth-Vader-Helmet-like object
> that clamps onto the top of the stay. Other
> manufacturers use "halyard
> restrainers" that clamp to the face of the mast,
> though increasingly spar
> builders are finally getting around to
> positioning jib halyard sheaves for
> an optimal furler lead, without the need for a
> restrainer." (
> www.briontoss.com/education/archive/miscnov03.htm <http://www.briontoss.com/education/archive/miscnov03.htm>)
>
> Didnt see that the make of the roller furler is
> mentioned. Constance has
> a Furlex. Page 23 of the Furlex manual talks
> about the restrainer.
> (sailing.mit.edu/wikiupload/0/0b/Furlex_200S_Furler.pdf
> <http://sailing.mit.edu/wikiupload/0/0b/Furlex_200S_Furler.pdf>)
>
> Jonathan
>
> On Thu, Jun 23, 2016 at 10:43 PM, Kris Coward
> via Public-List <
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>
>
> Put a halyard restrainer on the front of the
> mast to help keep the jib
> and spin halyards clear enough of each other
> to keep this problem at
> bay. I figured this one out the hard way (by
> breaking the forestay with
> (jib) halyard wrap before putting the
> restrainer on--fortunately I was
> able to rig up the spare halyard as an
> emergency forestay before the rig
> got any ideas about falling over).
>
> -Kris
>
> On Thu, Jun 23, 2016 at 03:39:13PM -0400,
> charles pleisse via Public-List
> wrote:
>
> Sookie has a spinnaker and most of the
> associated gear. It all seems to
>
> be
>
> original to the boat. Furling gear was
> installed in the mid 80's. I
> believe the spinnaker hasn't been used
> since. I discovered why last
>
> year.
>
> As many of you probably know, the
> spinnaker halyard interferes with the
> upper parts of the furling gear. Is
> there any way to rig a spinnaker
> halyard on an original mast head that
> will not interfere with the furler?
>
> Charles Pleisse
> Sookie #221
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