[Public-List] furling gear and spinnaker halyard

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When we raced J Bergquist's Calliope with a racing Genoa on the foil, we led the spin halyard around the backside of the port side spreader, to a loop attached to the base of the turnbuckle. We could tension it up after cleaning up upwind. We never rolled the jib during sail changes. 


Mike

Michael J. Meinhold 
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> On Jun 24, 2016, at 9:35 AM, Jonathan Bresler via Public-List <public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
> 
> Charles,
> 
> A halyard that is parallel to the forestay is in danger of being wrapped
> around the forestay by a roller furler.
> The forces can be great enough to break the forestay as Kris related
> above.  From what I've read, it appears
> that the halyard should be angled of 5 to 10 degrees aft from the stay
> starting at the top swivel.  The "restrainer"
> should be attached to mast in order to achieve that angle.
> 
> Brion Toss writes "A furler's halyard swivel is a wonderful device,
> enabling you to adjust halyard tension, even if the sail is furled. But it
> is also a tremendous Achilles heel, the source of the majority of the
> furler problems we see in our shop. For example, if the halyard leads too
> close to the foil, and especially if the halyard is slack, it can get
> caught up on the foil while you are setting or furling the sail. This is
> the terrible "halyard wrap" that can make it impossible for the furler to
> rotate, or for the sail to go up or down. And it can damage or destroy the
> foil, the wire, and the halyard. Accordingly, every manufacturer that has a
> halyard swivel is extremely emphatic on proper halyard lead and tension, as
> well as optimal swivel height. Particulars vary, but the general idea is to
> have the top of the swivel just a few inches below the top of the foil, and
> to have the halyard angled slightly aft from the swivel. Profurl handles
> both these details with their "Wrapstop", a Darth-Vader-Helmet-like object
> that clamps onto the top of the stay. Other manufacturers use "halyard
> restrainers" that clamp to the face of the mast, though increasingly spar
> builders are finally getting around to positioning jib halyard sheaves for
> an optimal furler lead, without the need for a restrainer."  (
> www.briontoss.com/education/archive/miscnov03.htm)
> 
> Didnt see that the make of the roller furler is mentioned.   Constance has
> a Furlex.   Page 23 of the Furlex manual talks about the restrainer.
> (sailing.mit.edu/wikiupload/0/0b/Furlex_200S_Furler.pdf)
> 
> Jonathan
> 
> On Thu, Jun 23, 2016 at 10:43 PM, Kris Coward via Public-List <
> public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
> 
>> 
>> Put a halyard restrainer on the front of the mast to help keep the jib
>> and spin halyards clear enough of each other to keep this problem at
>> bay. I figured this one out the hard way (by breaking the forestay with
>> (jib) halyard wrap before putting the restrainer on--fortunately I was
>> able to rig up the spare halyard as an emergency forestay before the rig
>> got any ideas about falling over).
>> 
>> -Kris
>> 
>> On Thu, Jun 23, 2016 at 03:39:13PM -0400, charles pleisse via Public-List
>> wrote:
>>> Sookie has a spinnaker and most of the associated gear.  It all seems to
>> be
>>> original to the boat.  Furling gear was installed in the mid 80's.  I
>>> believe the spinnaker hasn't been used since.  I discovered why last
>> year.
>>> As many of you probably know, the spinnaker halyard interferes with the
>>> upper parts of the furling gear.  Is there any way to rig a spinnaker
>>> halyard on an original mast head that will not interfere with the furler?
>>> 
>>> Charles Pleisse
>>> Sookie #221
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