[Public-List] Continued Fitment questions on Boom Vang choice

Fri Nov 4 05:18:06 PDT 2016

Good morning friends,

One of the things I like about the gooseneck track is that when the mainsail
is doused, the whole boom drops to the bottom of the track, thereby putting
load on the preset topping lift (in mini form just as yards do in sailing
ships).  When the sail is set, the lift is slack.  I never have to touch it,
although we¹ve got it rigged through a block at the masthead down to a cleat
on the mast.  In effect it¹s a light secondary main halyard, which we¹ve
actually used once during a race when the main halyard broke.

And how did it break?  A well meaning friend had wrapped tape around the
nicropress securing the wire eye to the shackle.  We couldn¹t see that the
wire had metal fatigued and was holding on by fewer and fewer strands... One
day in heavy air it broke.  We pulled down the sail, put the topping lift on
the head, than hauled it up again.  1/4² line isn¹t the greatest for a
halyard but we finished the race.

Gord #426 Surprise

On 2016-11-04, 4:22 AM, "Bill McCoy" <wmccoy548 at hotmail.com> wrote:

> Gordo, et.al., the track for the boom/gooseneck seems a leftover from dingy
> days?  I can understand a loose track for a simple under 20 day sailer but for
> such a weighty boom and degree of sail, seems the boom could be fixed and do
> just as well with an added vang to support keeping it level--just my initial
> observation.
> 
> 
> Skeep
> 
> 
> 
> From: Gordon Laco <mainstay at csolve.net>
> Sent: Thursday, November 3, 2016 9:49 AM
> To: Wes Gardner; Alberg 30 Public List -- open to all; Don Campbell
> Cc: Bill McCoy
> Subject: Re: [Public-List] Continued Fitment questions on Boom Vang choice
>  
> I know people pound the table spilling each other's beer about fixed vs
> sliding goosenecks... I like mine to move on it's track.  Why?  I just do,
> that's why.
> 
> I don't think rigid vangs require fixed goosenecks.  Nor should they impose
> higher loads than tackles...
> 
> Gord #426 Surprise
> 
> PS  Pim of WINDWARD and I are just back from the 2016 Misery Trip.  This
> year's expedition, although later in the season, was a sore disappointment
> in that there was no misery.  We romped SURPRISE north out of Severn Sound
> running and broad reaching touching seven knots on occasion getting to our
> anchorage at Bone Island way too soon. We lounged and lay about all
> afternoon, had a good supper out in the cockpit under lights hung from the
> boom, admired the stars, slept in comfort, woke up in a not particularly
> chilly cabin, ate a hearty breakfast of scrambled eggs and sausage... Then
> motored home in an incredible glassy calm in warm air.  Damn.  No misery.
> 
> I was thinking we'd have to go again in order to find the suffering we were
> looking for, but my wife preempted that by volunteering to help me strip
> down the rig in preparation for haul out Saturday.  So now it's too late, we
> can't go again.
> 
> 
> On 2016-11-03, 9:39 AM, "Wes Gardner via Public-List"
> <public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
> 
>> > Oh, the hard vangs MAY require a fixed point goose neck???  Mine is still
>> > on a track.
>> > 
>> > On Thu, Nov 3, 2016 at 9:36 AM, Wes Gardner <wesgardner1952 at gmail.com>
>> > wrote:
>> > 
>>> >> Here's mine...just a simple arrangement of blocks led back to the
>>> >> cockpit.  In fact it is was cobbled together by a PO use a mast bail and
a
>>> >> boom bail.  It's the white line, the blue one is the tack line for the
>>> asym.
>>> >> 
>>> >> On Thu, Nov 3, 2016 at 9:17 AM, Don Campbell via Public-List <
>>> >> public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
>>> >> 
>>>> >>> Bill:
>>>> >>>    I know of two Alberg 30's that have Garhauer vangs. Both are in the
>>>> >>> Canadian race fleet and the one is still in the box because the first
one
>>>> >>> went on and tore the track off the mast that held the boom. Garhauer
>>>> made a
>>>> >>> bracket for the boom fitting so that that boom now does not move on the
>>>> >>> mast. As far as I know, Phil really likes his set up and I will
>>>> eventually
>>>> >>> get around to replacing the cloth vang I have, with the one in the box,
>>>> >>> once I figure out where to put the boom on the mast.  If you do get a
>>>> >>> Garhauer, make sure you get the mast bracket too. They are a small
>>>> enough
>>>> >>> company that they should be able to make the same one that was made for
>>>> >>> Gemini, # 362 and that was for the stock mast.
>>>> >>> Don
>>>> >>> 
>>>> >>> -----Original Message----- From: Bill McCoy via Public-List
>>>> >>> Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2016 7:08 AM
>>>> >>> To: public-list at lists.alberg30.org
>>>> >>> Subject: [Public-List] Continued Fitment questions on Boom Vang choice
>>>> >>> 
>>>> >>> 
>>>> >>> So Hull 614 is back in the water.  This time in South Carolina.  Photo
at
>>>> >>> link:
>>>> >>> 
>>>> >>> 
>>>> >>> [IMG]http://i1358.photobucket.com/albums/q763/Skeep575/DSC_0
>>>> >>> 479_zpsy8voe1sf.jpg[/IMG][/URL]
>>>> >>> 
>>>> >>> 
>>>> >>> Update discussion threads on Boom Vangs.  I've read the old posts about
>>>> >>> these.
>>>> >>> 
>>>> >>> 
>>>> >>> Questions for the hearty:  1) For the Alberg, is there a consensus on
>>>> >>> type vang, blocks or rigid styles?  I'm referring to any sort of setup.
>>>> >>> 
>>>> >>> 
>>>> >>> 2) Garhauer was mentioned as supplying for Albergs specifically.  Is
>>>> this
>>>> >>> still the case that they are tuned-in to our design for boom vang
>>>> fitment?
>>>> >>> 
>>>> >>> 
>>>> >>> Thanks all,
>>>> >>> 
>>>> >>> skeep
>>>> >>> 
>>>> >>> 
>>>> >>> 
>>>> >>> 
>>>> >>> Bill
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