[Public-List] Public-List Digest, Vol 3352, Issue 1
daniele gracis via Public-List
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Mon Oct 10 09:26:46 PDT 2016
Hello,
I'm just becaume owner of an Alberg 30 in Mexico. It's without mast. Samebody have the original plan for the rigging? diameters and total lenght?
I know nothing about the history of this boat, the hull identificación number is 3067273 model '68, name Exuberant. I did'nt found on the list of Alberg 30.
We have also here an other boat, Merlin series #625, in very bad condition, no mast, no bome, no sails, no engine....
The most important is found the rigging plan to start to refitt.
Best regards
Daniele Gracis
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Today's Topics:
1. Re: Electric Auxiliary (Jonathan Bresler via Public-List)
2. Repowering with a yanmar 2QM15 (Greg Dawson via Public-List)
3. Re: Repowering with a yanmar 2QM15 (Bill Boyle via Public-List)
4. Re: Heating and and icebox (Mike Meinhold via Public-List)
5. Re: Public-List Digest, Vol 3348, Issue 1
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Date: Sun, 9 Oct 2016 20:09:50 -0400
From: Jonathan Bresler via Public-List
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To: Wes Gardner <wesgardner1952 at gmail.com>, Alberg 30 Public List --
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Subject: Re: [Public-List] Electric Auxiliary
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Tom,
A couple of folks have converted to electric. One example is
https://sailingintotheblue.wordpress.com/
[https://s0.wp.com/i/blank.jpg]<https://sailingintotheblue.wordpress.com/>
Sailing Into The Blue<https://sailingintotheblue.wordpress.com/>
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The travels of our Alberg 30
One example from their blog is
https://sailingintotheblue.wordpress.com/2014/01/13/there-were-electric-motor-problems-because-of-us/
[https://sailingintotheblue.files.wordpress.com/2013/07/img_0001.jpg?w=640]<https://sailingintotheblue.wordpress.com/2014/01/13/there-were-electric-motor-problems-because-of-us/>
There Were Electric Motor Problems – Because of Us ...<https://sailingintotheblue.wordpress.com/2014/01/13/there-were-electric-motor-problems-because-of-us/>
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You’ll know if you’ve been reading along, following our travels, that we converted from a small diesel to an electric motor before we began our trip.
Jonathan
On Sun, Oct 9, 2016 at 7:43 PM, Wes Gardner via Public-List <
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> Hey Tom,
>
> I DIDN'T do it because of cost. I was quoted 12K for a Thoosa system. This
> was with batteries (4 of them) but uninstalled. Dunno with a haul-out, new
> shaft, new prop, fair amount of large gauge wiring, new engine beds and
> some patching up where my old engine panel would have been just what the
> total would be. They also did a usage analysis for me and if I were to run
> flat-out, I'd get one hour of run-time. That killed it for me.
>
>
> Wes
>
> > On Oct 9, 2016, at 3:39 PM, via Public-List <public-list at lists.alberg30.
> org> wrote:
> >
> > I've searched the archives and I see a lot of discussion about the
> topic, but has anyone actually pulled trigger and gone electric? Interested
> to see some real-world reviews.
> >
> > Tom Steele
> > L'Esprit #288
> >
> >
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Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2016 08:20:54 -0400
From: Greg Dawson via Public-List <public-list at lists.alberg30.org>
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Subject: [Public-List] Repowering with a yanmar 2QM15
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Dear all
Quick question. Is your boat powered by a 2 cylinder Yanmar diesel? specifically a 2QM15? If yes can you tell me what transmission is on it and what is you prop shaft diameter? Is the final drive straight out or is it off set ? Did you fit it yourself and how much work was involved in the converting the engine mounts from the A4?
I ask because I am looking at a second hand Yanmar and wondering if it will fit my A30 without changing transmission etc.. Any help and advice would be appreciated.
Happy thanks giving to all of you above the boarder.
Sincerely
Greg Dawson
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Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2016 13:09:32 +0000 (UTC)
From: Bill Boyle via Public-List <public-list at lists.alberg30.org>
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Subject: Re: [Public-List] Repowering with a yanmar 2QM15
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Hi Greg,
We have that diesel in our boat.? From what I know the motor comes with an attached transmission.? It's a Kanzaki-Carl Hurth KBW10.? They call it a reduction gear.? It was in the boat when we got it.? What I can tell you is it will move the boat at a solid 6.2-6.6 knots.? With a clean bottom it will do 7.? The one drawback with that motor is it's noise.?? When it idles it sounds like some one is beating it with a hammer.? It will smooth out at higher RPMs but it still is loud.? Don't know off the top of my head the other answers.
Bill Boyle
Slainte? #129
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Dear all
Quick question. Is your boat powered by a 2 cylinder Yanmar diesel? specifically a 2QM15? If yes can you tell me what transmission is on it and what is you prop shaft diameter? Is the final drive straight out or is it off set ? Did you fit it yourself and how much work was involved in the converting the engine mounts from the A4?
I ask because I am looking at a second hand Yanmar and wondering if it will fit my A30 without changing transmission etc.. Any help and advice would be appreciated.
Happy thanks giving to all of you above the boarder.
Sincerely
Greg Dawson
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Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2016 10:45:54 -0400
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Subject: Re: [Public-List] Heating and and icebox
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Tim,
My solo standards are about like this :
> 60 F - sheets and blankets
45-60 F - sleeping bag
<45 F - hatch boards in
No hatch boards on the recent Fall Cruise! I lit my stove (A Cole wood
stove) twice on the Fall Cruise just because I had the wood and wanted to,
but did not need it.
Without the wood stove, < 35 F gets a bit cold. With the wood stove you
still need a good sleeping bag, but you can warm the cabin up quickly in
the morning, and have a pleasant evening below. I would not want a
self-feeding stove because of the risk of smoking and CO poisoning.
I use seasoned oak that I split and cut to 3 or 4 inch lengths on a table
saw, then spit again into little 1/2 inch or less chunks.
You are welcome to come see my installation - I will be in the water this
year too. Let me know.
Mike
Rinn Duin #272
On Wed, Oct 5, 2016 at 6:56 PM, tmthypk at gmail.com via Public-List <
public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
> With the weather becoming colder, there are two projects I want to work
> on, and would love some specific advice on. After a couple trips over the
> summer I have realized this ice box just isn't going to work out. Would
> anyone be willing to grab a beer and talk about what they did, and give me
> some actionable advice?
>
> Also, I am not taking the boat out this winter and plan to use it in the
> cold months if I get a nice day and have been really thinking about looking
> for one of those solid fuel cabin heaters. Would anyone care to comment on
> their experiences; Such as temps you would be willing to sleep out, relax
> in the cabin and what other alternatives to that route?
>
> Thank you!
>
> Timothy Peek
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Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2016 11:51:18 -0400
From: Mike Meinhold via Public-List <public-list at lists.alberg30.org>
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We have used both a cooler on the cabin sole and the ice box. The con on the cooler in addition to the deck space is your stuff sitting in melt water. If you keep the ice box drain clear it stays mostly dry. About 6 years ago I did a 'temporary' fix by lining the inside of the icebox with styrofoam. This past fall cruise I was out for 9 days solo and fed it ice 4 times and had ice left to get stuff home
Mike
> On Oct 9, 2016, at 7:01 PM, Bill Woodford via Public-List <public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
>
> Hey Tim,
>
> We are all in the same boat. The ice box on mine is non-functional as
> well. It is excellent at keeping beer warm. I haven't had the time yet to
> rebuild it as Mike Lehman and Jonathan Adams did. I am leaning in that
> direction.
>
> However, for the past two seasons this is what I did. I looked at the
> "Yetti" coolers. The price just rubbed me wrong for a cooler. So I read
> the reviews and found very little difference in efficiency amongst the
> brands that make " 5 day" coolers. I bought the Coleman 5 day because it
> compared favorably, it had wheels and it was $ 50.
>
> After two seasons of use, here is my assessment
>
> The pros:
>
> -It does hold food/beer cold for 4 days with a block of ice in there, even
> in a Baltimore summer
> -I have to pack the cooler anyway when taking food/beer to the boat, so
> there is no transfer hassle once I am at the boat
> -the price is definitely right
> -the wheels on the cooler really are wonderful and I can roll the damn
> thing to the boat rather than carrying a heavy cooler
>
>
> The cons:
> -It seems like it is in the way, i.e. it takes up too much space on a small
> boat. Usually, I place it between the head and the closet. It is mostly
> out of the way. This past weekend, I kept the cooler in the cockpit. On
> the flip side of this argument, I would probably carry an igloo cooler for
> sodas/beer anyway, so I am bound to lose some amount of floor space to some
> form of a cooler
>
> -the coleman model only has imbedded handles making it awkward to lift at
> times
>
>
> That is my two cents. I am happy to talk with you about it further but
> that is the temporary and cost effective solution I have arrived at. I
> will probably rebuild the ice box at some point in an attempt to make it
> "Yetti-like"
>
> Good luck,
>
> Woody
> US 11 Latika
>
>
> On Fri, Oct 7, 2016 at 10:15 PM, George Dinwiddie via Public-List <
> public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
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>> Tim, you'd be amazed at what you can find on the website.
>> http://alberg30.org/maintenance/Accomodations/Woodstove/
[http://www.alberg30.org/maintenance/Accomodations/Woodstove/Gord'sStove-thumb.jpg]<http://alberg30.org/maintenance/Accomodations/Woodstove/>
Installing a Woodstove Cabin Heater - Alberg 30<http://alberg30.org/maintenance/Accomodations/Woodstove/>
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>>
>>
>>> On 10/7/16 10:26 AM, Tim Peek via Public-List wrote:
>>>
>>> Would you mind sending the photos or where I can see them? Thank you.
>>>
>>> Tim Peek
>>>
>>> On Oct 6, 2016, at 16:05, Gordon Laco via Public-List <
>>>> public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I've got the same stove - I like it a lot, but the door isn't air tight
>>>> so
>>>> one cannot clamp it up to slow the fire much.
>>>>
>>>> The various cast iron stoves are much better, but of course cost a lot
>>>> more.
>>>>
>>>> I think George Dinwiddie has posted photos of SURPRISE's installation, if
>>>> not, I'll send to anyone who asks.
>>>>
>>>> Gord #426 Surprise
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 2016-10-06, 4:00 PM, "Stephen Gwyn via Public-List"
>>>> <public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> When you say solid fuel heaters, do you mean something like this:
>>>>> http://dickinsonmarine.com/product/newport-solid-fuel-heater/
[http://dickinsonmarine.com/dm/wp-content/uploads/2015/11/NEWSF-smaller.jpg]<http://dickinsonmarine.com/product/newport-solid-fuel-heater/>
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Newport Solid Fuel Heater. The Newport Solid Fuel Heater is a small stainless steel solid fuel heater designed for casual use ideal for boats 20-25ft.
>>>>>
>>>>> I have one and I love it. But it doesn't keep the boat warm all
>>>>> night. It's fine for the evenings, when you can feed it with
>>>>> fuel every half hour. When I go to bed, I need 2-3 comforters and
>>>>> a wooly hat. This is in the Pacific Northwest, where winter nights are
>>>>> typically 8C (or 45F if you're from the US, Liberia or Burma).
>>>>> I mostly burn chunks of prestalogs, but also coal.
>>>>>
>>>>> SG
>>>>>
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>>>>>> From: "tmthypk at gmail.com via Public-List"
>>>>>> <public-list at lists.alberg30.org>
>>>>>> To: Chesapeake Bay Alberg30 Association
>>>>>> <public-list at lists.alberg30.org>
>>>>>> Subject: [Public-List] Heating and and icebox
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>>>>>> With the weather becoming colder, there are two projects I want to
>>>>>> work on,
>>>>>> and would love some specific advice on. After a couple trips over the
>>>>>> summer
>>>>>> I have realized this ice box just isn't going to work out. Would
>>>>>> anyone be
>>>>>> willing to grab a beer and talk about what they did, and give me some
>>>>>> actionable advice?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Also, I am not taking the boat out this winter and plan to use it in
>>>>>> the cold
>>>>>> months if I get a nice day and have been really thinking about looking
>>>>>> for
>>>>>> one of those solid fuel cabin heaters. Would anyone care to comment
>>>>>> on their
>>>>>> experiences; Such as temps you would be willing to sleep out, relax in
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> cabin and what other alternatives to that route?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thank you!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Timothy Peek
>>>>>>
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