[Public-List] Edson Tiller head

Gordon Laco via Public-List public-list at lists.alberg30.org
Fri Mar 3 06:03:28 PST 2017


Good point Don – 

I’ve got a friend who is in the habit of sailing with the tiller nearly vertical.  That’s a bad habit both from the point of view of loss of leverage but mostly because of the issue you describe below.

And all that reminds me of another friend who sails a full keeled boat, although not an A30, who has nearly five degrees or so of play in his rudder head.  He doesn’t care.  I guess one of the secrets of finding happiness and contentment is being able to decide what one is going to let get under one’s skin, but I’d have a hard time putting up with that.  Steering is the most intimate connection a sailor has with his/her boat… it should be good!

Gord 
#426 Surprise

in a state of depression due to the return of winter.   Temperature here in Midland Ontario was +14C a few days ago… -10C again last night.  I know winter always gives one last blast in March, but….

On 2017-03-02, 10:01 PM, "Public-List on behalf of Don Campbell via Public-List" <public-list-bounces at lists.alberg30.org on behalf of public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:

    Much of the problems of the tiller head wear arise because skippers hold the 
    tiller too high. If the arms of the H bracket on the tiller are held above 
    the tiller head, then all the torque is on the tabs and bolt holes at the 
    aft of the tiller head and this torque is too much for the bronze. Two 
    things happen, first the tabs bend and second the bolt hole gets bigger and 
    therefore play develops.  Once there is play in the bronze holes,  things go 
    from bad to worse.  Thus, hanging on to a tiller while standing is not a 
    good idea. Try to keep the tiller low in the cockpit. This can be helped 
    with a tiller extension that allows for control at a much higher level while 
    keeping the H bracket on the tiller head. At least that way, the key in the 
    shaft takes most of the torque.
    Don
    
    -----Original Message----- 
    From: Stephen Gwyn via Public-List
    Sent: Thursday, March 02, 2017 6:13 PM
    To: public-list at lists.alberg30.org
    Subject: [Public-List] Edson Tiller head
    
    Hi,
    
    No I haven't contacted Edson yet. I haven't decided if I want to fight for
    a refund or an exchange. The fundamental design is flawed however.
    All the pressure is on the bolt and the holes it goes through. In the old 
    one,
    the pressure is on the inside of the arms of the tiller part pushing on the
    sides of the part attached to the rudder stock. I'm going to take it to
    a machinist who has looked at in the past. He suggest welding on material
    and the machining it back to fit, but suggested that since it would cost
    almost as much as a new part, I might as well buy a new part.
    
    SG
    
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