[Public-List] Public-List Digest, Vol 3645, Issue 1

Zachary Smith zacharysmith.us at gmail.com
Sun May 27 06:03:53 PDT 2018


Scuttle the autocorrect.

Zach

On Sun, May 27, 2018 at 6:54 AM, Gordon Laco via Public-List <
public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:

> Damn… it happened again…
>
> “housed hard” should be “boused” hard
>
> “unreeled” of course should be “unreefed"
> Gordon Laco
>
> Argh
>
>
> Gord
>
>
>
>
> > On May 27, 2018, at 8:46 AM, Gordon Laco via Public-List <
> public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
> >
> > Or if you keep the furler, consider it only as a means of stowing the
> sail… NOT as a means of shortening sail.
> >
> >
> > Gordon Laco
> > #426 Surprise
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >> On May 27, 2018, at 7:41 AM, Gordon Laco via Public-List <
> public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
> >>
> >> Good morning -
> >>
> >> I’d suggest that you were underpowered… and a rolled headsail results
> in a very poorly shaped headsail delivering more heeling force than forward
> drive.    It is not possible to sail well with a partially rolled
> headsail.
> >>
> >> What size is your genoa when normally set?  If it is a 150 or less,
> you’d have been better off with it set normally, but with the sheet leads
> shifted aft slightly to induce twist, and the halyard housed hard to pull
> draft forward.  The trouble with partially rolling the sail is that you end
> up with a baggy sail with the draft in the wrong place… sometimes causing
> more trouble than a larger flatter sail.
> >>
> >> Was your reefed main flat? A poorly reefed main can actually cause more
> heeling forces than an unreeled one.  In addition, if the main isn’t reefed
> so it is flatter than a full main, you’ll end up with a lot of weather
> helm… the boat will have to drag her rudder through the water and that saps
> speed.
> >>
> >> Forgive me if your main was well reefed… but I have seen many poorly
> reefed mains… a properly reefed sail doesn’t need it’s reef points tied at
> all… all the load is on the reef clew which draws the new foot of the sail
> hard up against the boom.  If there is any load on the reef points at all,
> then the clew reef line is too slack, resulting in a baggy sail.  The only
> thing the reef points should do is bunch up the bunt or loose fabric of the
> reefed sail so you can see under it… nothing else.
> >>
> >> Taken all together, the upshot of this is that if a boat has shortened
> sail too much for the conditions, and the means of shortening sail prevents
> what sail is still set from driving her along, she’ll feel unhappy… if
> there’s a chop, she’ll lack power to drive through it.  If she’s beating,
> she won’t point and will feel soggy… if she’s racing, the fleet will draw
> away… if she’s cruising, well she won’t get where she wants to go with much
> grace and pleasure…
> >>
> >> Gordon Laco
> >> #426 Surprise
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>> On May 27, 2018, at 7:17 AM, Sheldon Shikoluk via Public-List <
> public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Raced my A30 in 20 knt. winds yesterday, had a single reef in main and
> >>> rolled genoa up to 100%. couldnt sail well with the chop any
> suggestions
> >>> Rainbow A30
> >>>
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> >>>> Today's Topics:
> >>>>
> >>>> 1. Re: Second race of the year... (Joseph Balderson)
> >>>> 2. Re: Second race of the year... (Gordon Laco)
> >>>> 3. Re: Second race of the year... (Gordon Laco)
> >>>> 4. Re: Second race of the year... (Joseph Balderson)
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> ------------------------------------------------------------
> ----------
> >>>>
> >>>> Message: 1
> >>>> Date: Sat, 26 May 2018 06:33:08 -0400
> >>>> From: Joseph Balderson <joebinc at gmail.com>
> >>>> To: Alberg 30 Public List -- open to all
> >>>>      <public-list at lists.alberg30.org>
> >>>> Subject: Re: [Public-List] Second race of the year...
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> >>>>
> >>>> How many degrees will Suprise tack through in 8kts of breeze and a
> fairly
> >>>> smooth sea?
> >>>>
> >>>> On Fri, May 25, 2018, 11:27 AM Gordon Laco via Public-List <
> >>>> public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> Hello gang -
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Well I missed writing up the first race of the year, as has been my
> habit
> >>>>> for a while now, so here?s the Second Race of the Year.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> The first race is perhaps better laid aside, due to a regrettable
> lapse
> >>>> on
> >>>>> my part involving forgetting to put the spinnaker aboard.   We
> finished
> >>>> 3rd
> >>>>> but the experience was marred by the three of us bickering all the
> way
> >>>>> around the course trying to place blame for the big forget.   Well I
> >>>> should
> >>>>> say it was the crew against me, a two way bicker, not three.  I feel
> >>>> quite
> >>>>> justified in suggesting that they should not have believed me when I
> said
> >>>>> earlier in the week that the ?chute was still aboard from last year?
> my
> >>>>> track record should have alerted to them to the fact that I rarely
> recall
> >>>>> things like that correctly.  Clearly they should have challenged me,
> and
> >>>>> that challenge would have driven me to check and THAT would have
> revealed
> >>>>> that the sail was not in the boat.   If they?d done that, we?d have
> had
> >>>> the
> >>>>> sail and surely would have fought our way up to a first place
> finish.  If
> >>>>> we?d had the spinnaker on board.  Their position was that I should
> have
> >>>>> checked myself.  Weak, I say.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> There was another problem.  This one I place squarely on the race
> >>>>> committee.  Due to a bit of confusion on their part, and a drifting
> >>>>> windward mark, they initiated the start sequence four times.  One
> time
> >>>>> involved the guy on the horn trying it out? his timid staccato beeps
> made
> >>>>> everyone start their watches? Then the mark drifted and the second
> start
> >>>>> sequence was cancelled while the crash boat sped out to windward to
> catch
> >>>>> it and anchor it properly? I forget what happened with the third
> >>>>> (accidental beep again I think) then there was the real start.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Anyway, we were charging in, glorying in our brand new genoa being
> used
> >>>>> for the first time, when I realized with ten seconds to go that we
> were
> >>>>> alone? the rest of our fleet was about  minute and ten seconds
> behind us.
> >>>>> Yup? we were making a perfect start a minute early.  The upshot of
> all
> >>>> that
> >>>>> was having to wheel around and start after everyone.  We clawed our
> way
> >>>> up
> >>>>> from last place to third, but as usual, we were left wondering how
> things
> >>>>> might have turned out if we?d only started better?and if we?d had the
> >>>>> spinnaker...
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Well I guess I did tell about the first race after all? on to the
> second.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> This time we DID have the spinnaker aboard, but Steve had to cancel
> so it
> >>>>> was only Clint and I to run the boat.  I decided not to fly the
> sail.  We
> >>>>> got a clean start, marvelled at how with the new sail we could keep
> up
> >>>> with
> >>>>> SUNDANCE ,our mortal enemy, upwind? but it all fell apart at the
> leeward
> >>>>> mark after the run when we became entangled in a squabbling mass of
> >>>> vermin
> >>>>> (Shark class yachts) in addition to the majestic TO LIFE, the custom
> >>>>> Killing 50 which had started with A Fleet five minutes behind us and
> was
> >>>>> overtaking.  By the time we got clear of all the dead air (and the
> fine
> >>>>> breeze had subsided to a sigh of course) SUNDANCE as 1/3 of the
> windward
> >>>>> leg ahead of us and we were never close to them again.   We ended up
> 4th
> >>>> in
> >>>>> our fleet? not great but ahead of MAID MARION, so we took solace in
> that.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Oh well, there?s always next week? bring on the 2018 racing season!
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Gordon Laco
> >>>>> #426 SURPRISE
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
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> >>>>
> >>>> ------------------------------
> >>>>
> >>>> Message: 2
> >>>> Date: Sat, 26 May 2018 08:31:52 -0400
> >>>> From: Gordon Laco <mainstay at csolve.net>
> >>>> To: Alberg 30 Public List -- open to all
> >>>>      <public-list at lists.alberg30.org>
> >>>> Subject: Re: [Public-List] Second race of the year...
> >>>> Message-ID: <E1D2CE4B-3185-4520-A476-CDAA1D58D7F2 at csolve.net>
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> >>>>
> >>>> With leeway, I don?t reckon she can do better than 100 degrees.
> She?ll
> >>>> point a little higher, but unless it?s blowing it?s not worth jamming
> her
> >>>> up that high? she just slows down and leeway increases.
> >>>>
> >>>> She comes to life upwind in wind over 12 knots.   We are competitive
> in
> >>>> that wind speed and above, but performance drops dramatically when
> the air
> >>>> is below 8-10 knots compared to our foes.  Funny thing is that we
> come to
> >>>> life again in drifting conditions when we?re gliding along at 0.5
> knots?
> >>>> we are deadly in very light airs.  I think the reason is that once we
> get
> >>>> her moving, she doesn?t stop.  Our narrowness and weight play for us
> so
> >>>> long as I don?t wiggle around too much.  We accelerate in puffs much
> more
> >>>> slowly than the lighter boats, but once we get going, we glide a long
> way
> >>>> in the lulls when they just stop.
> >>>>
> >>>> There are no Alberg 30?s who care to race where we sail so we?re
> always in
> >>>> a mixed fleet racing against Pearson 28, Aloha 27, CS 27 C&C 27,
> Irwin 31,
> >>>> Tanzer 7.5, Niagara 26 etc on PHRF.  There is a Grampion 26 who
> sometimes
> >>>> comes out? ?Grumps? are ugly as sin, but are good sailors, as is the
> Tanzer
> >>>> 22? both those boats somewhat anomalies in their tribes so people
> used to
> >>>> make jokes that their designers were just lucky with them when all
> their
> >>>> larger and smaller boats in their lines were such poor performers.
> >>>>
> >>>> Gordon Laco
> >>>> #426 Surprise
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> On May 26, 2018, at 6:33 AM, Joseph Balderson via Public-List <
> >>>> public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> How many degrees will Suprise tack through in 8kts of breeze and a
> fairly
> >>>>> smooth sea?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On Fri, May 25, 2018, 11:27 AM Gordon Laco via Public-List <
> >>>>> public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> Hello gang -
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Well I missed writing up the first race of the year, as has been my
> >>>> habit
> >>>>>> for a while now, so here?s the Second Race of the Year.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> The first race is perhaps better laid aside, due to a regrettable
> lapse
> >>>> on
> >>>>>> my part involving forgetting to put the spinnaker aboard.   We
> finished
> >>>> 3rd
> >>>>>> but the experience was marred by the three of us bickering all the
> way
> >>>>>> around the course trying to place blame for the big forget.   Well I
> >>>> should
> >>>>>> say it was the crew against me, a two way bicker, not three.  I feel
> >>>> quite
> >>>>>> justified in suggesting that they should not have believed me when I
> >>>> said
> >>>>>> earlier in the week that the ?chute was still aboard from last
> year? my
> >>>>>> track record should have alerted to them to the fact that I rarely
> >>>> recall
> >>>>>> things like that correctly.  Clearly they should have challenged
> me, and
> >>>>>> that challenge would have driven me to check and THAT would have
> >>>> revealed
> >>>>>> that the sail was not in the boat.   If they?d done that, we?d have
> had
> >>>> the
> >>>>>> sail and surely would have fought our way up to a first place
> finish.
> >>>> If
> >>>>>> we?d had the spinnaker on board.  Their position was that I should
> have
> >>>>>> checked myself.  Weak, I say.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> There was another problem.  This one I place squarely on the race
> >>>>>> committee.  Due to a bit of confusion on their part, and a drifting
> >>>>>> windward mark, they initiated the start sequence four times.  One
> time
> >>>>>> involved the guy on the horn trying it out? his timid staccato beeps
> >>>> made
> >>>>>> everyone start their watches? Then the mark drifted and the second
> start
> >>>>>> sequence was cancelled while the crash boat sped out to windward to
> >>>> catch
> >>>>>> it and anchor it properly? I forget what happened with the third
> >>>>>> (accidental beep again I think) then there was the real start.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Anyway, we were charging in, glorying in our brand new genoa being
> used
> >>>>>> for the first time, when I realized with ten seconds to go that we
> were
> >>>>>> alone? the rest of our fleet was about  minute and ten seconds
> behind
> >>>> us.
> >>>>>> Yup? we were making a perfect start a minute early.  The upshot of
> all
> >>>> that
> >>>>>> was having to wheel around and start after everyone.  We clawed our
> way
> >>>> up
> >>>>>> from last place to third, but as usual, we were left wondering how
> >>>> things
> >>>>>> might have turned out if we?d only started better?and if we?d had
> the
> >>>>>> spinnaker...
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Well I guess I did tell about the first race after all? on to the
> >>>> second.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> This time we DID have the spinnaker aboard, but Steve had to cancel
> so
> >>>> it
> >>>>>> was only Clint and I to run the boat.  I decided not to fly the
> sail.
> >>>> We
> >>>>>> got a clean start, marvelled at how with the new sail we could keep
> up
> >>>> with
> >>>>>> SUNDANCE ,our mortal enemy, upwind? but it all fell apart at the
> leeward
> >>>>>> mark after the run when we became entangled in a squabbling mass of
> >>>> vermin
> >>>>>> (Shark class yachts) in addition to the majestic TO LIFE, the custom
> >>>>>> Killing 50 which had started with A Fleet five minutes behind us
> and was
> >>>>>> overtaking.  By the time we got clear of all the dead air (and the
> fine
> >>>>>> breeze had subsided to a sigh of course) SUNDANCE as 1/3 of the
> windward
> >>>>>> leg ahead of us and we were never close to them again.   We ended up
> >>>> 4th in
> >>>>>> our fleet? not great but ahead of MAID MARION, so we took solace in
> >>>> that.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Oh well, there?s always next week? bring on the 2018 racing season!
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Gordon Laco
> >>>>>> #426 SURPRISE
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> _______________________________________________
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> >>>>>>
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> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> ------------------------------
> >>>>
> >>>> Message: 3
> >>>> Date: Sat, 26 May 2018 08:42:14 -0400
> >>>> From: Gordon Laco <mainstay at csolve.net>
> >>>> To: Alberg 30 Public List -- open to all
> >>>>      <public-list at lists.alberg30.org>
> >>>> Subject: Re: [Public-List] Second race of the year...
> >>>> Message-ID: <E22B198E-A36B-4C68-921C-FB616BF6642D at csolve.net>
> >>>> Content-Type: text/plain;       charset=utf-8
> >>>>
> >>>> And all that reminds me of when I had the honour of being one of HMS
> BEE?s
> >>>> captains? she?s an apes-War of 1812 replica schooner gunboat.  She
> could be
> >>>> jammed up to seem to point quite high (for a schooner) but the leeway
> up
> >>>> there was heartbreaking.
> >>>>
> >>>> When doing her best, laid off a bit and footing along, I would stand
> by
> >>>> the helmsman and look to leeward through the foremast?s shrouds? THAT
> was
> >>>> where we were going, not where the bowsprit was pointing.  But that
> was
> >>>> better than what she?d do jammed up as high as she?d point?
> >>>>
> >>>> Well you have to love gaff rigged schooners for what they are? and
> there?s
> >>>> lots to love... but they don?t sail like sloops can.   That said, I
> think
> >>>> BLUENOSE, the famous Grand Banks schooner, unbeaten during her career,
> >>>> still holds the speed record for average speed sailing around a
> triangular
> >>>> course? I think I read she averaged 17 knots: beating, running and
> >>>> reaching.
> >>>>
> >>>> Gordon Laco
> >>>> #426 Surprise
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> On May 26, 2018, at 6:33 AM, Joseph Balderson via Public-List <
> >>>> public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> How many degrees will Suprise tack through in 8kts of breeze and a
> fairly
> >>>>> smooth sea?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On Fri, May 25, 2018, 11:27 AM Gordon Laco via Public-List <
> >>>>> public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> Hello gang -
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Well I missed writing up the first race of the year, as has been my
> >>>> habit
> >>>>>> for a while now, so here?s the Second Race of the Year.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> The first race is perhaps better laid aside, due to a regrettable
> lapse
> >>>> on
> >>>>>> my part involving forgetting to put the spinnaker aboard.   We
> finished
> >>>> 3rd
> >>>>>> but the experience was marred by the three of us bickering all the
> way
> >>>>>> around the course trying to place blame for the big forget.   Well I
> >>>> should
> >>>>>> say it was the crew against me, a two way bicker, not three.  I feel
> >>>> quite
> >>>>>> justified in suggesting that they should not have believed me when I
> >>>> said
> >>>>>> earlier in the week that the ?chute was still aboard from last
> year? my
> >>>>>> track record should have alerted to them to the fact that I rarely
> >>>> recall
> >>>>>> things like that correctly.  Clearly they should have challenged
> me, and
> >>>>>> that challenge would have driven me to check and THAT would have
> >>>> revealed
> >>>>>> that the sail was not in the boat.   If they?d done that, we?d have
> had
> >>>> the
> >>>>>> sail and surely would have fought our way up to a first place
> finish.
> >>>> If
> >>>>>> we?d had the spinnaker on board.  Their position was that I should
> have
> >>>>>> checked myself.  Weak, I say.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> There was another problem.  This one I place squarely on the race
> >>>>>> committee.  Due to a bit of confusion on their part, and a drifting
> >>>>>> windward mark, they initiated the start sequence four times.  One
> time
> >>>>>> involved the guy on the horn trying it out? his timid staccato beeps
> >>>> made
> >>>>>> everyone start their watches? Then the mark drifted and the second
> start
> >>>>>> sequence was cancelled while the crash boat sped out to windward to
> >>>> catch
> >>>>>> it and anchor it properly? I forget what happened with the third
> >>>>>> (accidental beep again I think) then there was the real start.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Anyway, we were charging in, glorying in our brand new genoa being
> used
> >>>>>> for the first time, when I realized with ten seconds to go that we
> were
> >>>>>> alone? the rest of our fleet was about  minute and ten seconds
> behind
> >>>> us.
> >>>>>> Yup? we were making a perfect start a minute early.  The upshot of
> all
> >>>> that
> >>>>>> was having to wheel around and start after everyone.  We clawed our
> way
> >>>> up
> >>>>>> from last place to third, but as usual, we were left wondering how
> >>>> things
> >>>>>> might have turned out if we?d only started better?and if we?d had
> the
> >>>>>> spinnaker...
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Well I guess I did tell about the first race after all? on to the
> >>>> second.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> This time we DID have the spinnaker aboard, but Steve had to cancel
> so
> >>>> it
> >>>>>> was only Clint and I to run the boat.  I decided not to fly the
> sail.
> >>>> We
> >>>>>> got a clean start, marvelled at how with the new sail we could keep
> up
> >>>> with
> >>>>>> SUNDANCE ,our mortal enemy, upwind? but it all fell apart at the
> leeward
> >>>>>> mark after the run when we became entangled in a squabbling mass of
> >>>> vermin
> >>>>>> (Shark class yachts) in addition to the majestic TO LIFE, the custom
> >>>>>> Killing 50 which had started with A Fleet five minutes behind us
> and was
> >>>>>> overtaking.  By the time we got clear of all the dead air (and the
> fine
> >>>>>> breeze had subsided to a sigh of course) SUNDANCE as 1/3 of the
> windward
> >>>>>> leg ahead of us and we were never close to them again.   We ended up
> >>>> 4th in
> >>>>>> our fleet? not great but ahead of MAID MARION, so we took solace in
> >>>> that.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Oh well, there?s always next week? bring on the 2018 racing season!
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Gordon Laco
> >>>>>> #426 SURPRISE
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> _______________________________________________
> >>>>>> These businesses support your Association:
> >>>>>> http://www.alberg30.org/store/A30supporters.html
> >>>>>> Please support them.
> >>>>>> _______________________________________________
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> >>>>>> http://lists.alberg30.org/listinfo.cgi/public-list-alberg30.org
> >>>>>>
> >>>>> _______________________________________________
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> >>>>> Please support them.
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> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> ------------------------------
> >>>>
> >>>> Message: 4
> >>>> Date: Sat, 26 May 2018 09:06:06 -0400
> >>>> From: Joseph Balderson <joebinc at gmail.com>
> >>>> To: Alberg 30 Public List -- open to all
> >>>>      <public-list at lists.alberg30.org>
> >>>> Subject: Re: [Public-List] Second race of the year...
> >>>> Message-ID:
> >>>>      <CALNKNAjp2=QFXkRVaZa-v885Csekb5M0P-Ch-jErd+
> >>>> 3qB7qvbQ at mail.gmail.com>
> >>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
> >>>>
> >>>> I'm there with pointing, 100 plus a little. So it's full and by no
> pinch.
> >>>> Thank you
> >>>>
> >>>> On Sat, May 26, 2018, 8:32 AM Gordon Laco via Public-List <
> >>>> public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> With leeway, I don?t reckon she can do better than 100 degrees.
> She?ll
> >>>>> point a little higher, but unless it?s blowing it?s not worth
> jamming her
> >>>>> up that high? she just slows down and leeway increases.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> She comes to life upwind in wind over 12 knots.   We are competitive
> in
> >>>>> that wind speed and above, but performance drops dramatically when
> the
> >>>> air
> >>>>> is below 8-10 knots compared to our foes.  Funny thing is that we
> come to
> >>>>> life again in drifting conditions when we?re gliding along at 0.5
> knots?
> >>>>> we are deadly in very light airs.  I think the reason is that once
> we get
> >>>>> her moving, she doesn?t stop.  Our narrowness and weight play for us
> so
> >>>>> long as I don?t wiggle around too much.  We accelerate in puffs much
> more
> >>>>> slowly than the lighter boats, but once we get going, we glide a
> long way
> >>>>> in the lulls when they just stop.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> There are no Alberg 30?s who care to race where we sail so we?re
> always
> >>>> in
> >>>>> a mixed fleet racing against Pearson 28, Aloha 27, CS 27 C&C 27,
> Irwin
> >>>> 31,
> >>>>> Tanzer 7.5, Niagara 26 etc on PHRF.  There is a Grampion 26 who
> sometimes
> >>>>> comes out? ?Grumps? are ugly as sin, but are good sailors, as is the
> >>>> Tanzer
> >>>>> 22? both those boats somewhat anomalies in their tribes so people
> used to
> >>>>> make jokes that their designers were just lucky with them when all
> their
> >>>>> larger and smaller boats in their lines were such poor performers.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Gordon Laco
> >>>>> #426 Surprise
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> On May 26, 2018, at 6:33 AM, Joseph Balderson via Public-List <
> >>>>> public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> How many degrees will Suprise tack through in 8kts of breeze and a
> >>>> fairly
> >>>>>> smooth sea?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On Fri, May 25, 2018, 11:27 AM Gordon Laco via Public-List <
> >>>>>> public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Hello gang -
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Well I missed writing up the first race of the year, as has been my
> >>>>> habit
> >>>>>>> for a while now, so here?s the Second Race of the Year.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> The first race is perhaps better laid aside, due to a regrettable
> >>>> lapse
> >>>>> on
> >>>>>>> my part involving forgetting to put the spinnaker aboard.   We
> >>>> finished
> >>>>> 3rd
> >>>>>>> but the experience was marred by the three of us bickering all the
> way
> >>>>>>> around the course trying to place blame for the big forget.   Well
> I
> >>>>> should
> >>>>>>> say it was the crew against me, a two way bicker, not three.  I
> feel
> >>>>> quite
> >>>>>>> justified in suggesting that they should not have believed me when
> I
> >>>>> said
> >>>>>>> earlier in the week that the ?chute was still aboard from last
> year?
> >>>> my
> >>>>>>> track record should have alerted to them to the fact that I rarely
> >>>>> recall
> >>>>>>> things like that correctly.  Clearly they should have challenged
> me,
> >>>> and
> >>>>>>> that challenge would have driven me to check and THAT would have
> >>>>> revealed
> >>>>>>> that the sail was not in the boat.   If they?d done that, we?d have
> >>>> had
> >>>>> the
> >>>>>>> sail and surely would have fought our way up to a first place
> finish.
> >>>>> If
> >>>>>>> we?d had the spinnaker on board.  Their position was that I should
> >>>> have
> >>>>>>> checked myself.  Weak, I say.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> There was another problem.  This one I place squarely on the race
> >>>>>>> committee.  Due to a bit of confusion on their part, and a drifting
> >>>>>>> windward mark, they initiated the start sequence four times.  One
> time
> >>>>>>> involved the guy on the horn trying it out? his timid staccato
> beeps
> >>>>> made
> >>>>>>> everyone start their watches? Then the mark drifted and the second
> >>>> start
> >>>>>>> sequence was cancelled while the crash boat sped out to windward to
> >>>>> catch
> >>>>>>> it and anchor it properly? I forget what happened with the third
> >>>>>>> (accidental beep again I think) then there was the real start.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Anyway, we were charging in, glorying in our brand new genoa being
> >>>> used
> >>>>>>> for the first time, when I realized with ten seconds to go that we
> >>>> were
> >>>>>>> alone? the rest of our fleet was about  minute and ten seconds
> behind
> >>>>> us.
> >>>>>>> Yup? we were making a perfect start a minute early.  The upshot of
> all
> >>>>> that
> >>>>>>> was having to wheel around and start after everyone.  We clawed our
> >>>> way
> >>>>> up
> >>>>>>> from last place to third, but as usual, we were left wondering how
> >>>>> things
> >>>>>>> might have turned out if we?d only started better?and if we?d had
> the
> >>>>>>> spinnaker...
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Well I guess I did tell about the first race after all? on to the
> >>>>> second.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> This time we DID have the spinnaker aboard, but Steve had to
> cancel so
> >>>>> it
> >>>>>>> was only Clint and I to run the boat.  I decided not to fly the
> sail.
> >>>>> We
> >>>>>>> got a clean start, marvelled at how with the new sail we could
> keep up
> >>>>> with
> >>>>>>> SUNDANCE ,our mortal enemy, upwind? but it all fell apart at the
> >>>> leeward
> >>>>>>> mark after the run when we became entangled in a squabbling mass of
> >>>>> vermin
> >>>>>>> (Shark class yachts) in addition to the majestic TO LIFE, the
> custom
> >>>>>>> Killing 50 which had started with A Fleet five minutes behind us
> and
> >>>> was
> >>>>>>> overtaking.  By the time we got clear of all the dead air (and the
> >>>> fine
> >>>>>>> breeze had subsided to a sigh of course) SUNDANCE as 1/3 of the
> >>>> windward
> >>>>>>> leg ahead of us and we were never close to them again.   We ended
> up
> >>>>> 4th in
> >>>>>>> our fleet? not great but ahead of MAID MARION, so we took solace in
> >>>>> that.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Oh well, there?s always next week? bring on the 2018 racing season!
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Gordon Laco
> >>>>>>> #426 SURPRISE
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
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