[Public-List] Which caulk for cockpit teak combing joining to fiberglass?

Mon Nov 12 11:34:08 PST 2018

Gord,

To see more Alberg 30 racing at Annapolis you can look at the TP2.TV
YouTube Channel https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCCH2lVbRbLifZTe2eCWKqwg
You can either wade through them or look at
T2P.tv <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lVeRtR7T954> See 6:05, 7:50 and 9:10
T2P.tv <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JN756606s3U> See 9:05
T2P.tv <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f46x6DQ_j5M> Nice footage of
*Second-2-Nun* starting at 08:14

Jonathan
and thank you for the information on the differences between red oak and
white oak

On Mon, Nov 12, 2018 at 9:18 AM Gordon Laco via Public-List <
public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:

> Good morning Jonathan -
>
> I am guessing that in Option 1 you are referring to red oak.  That wood is
> not appropriate for marine use.  White oak, in complete contrast, is very
> durable, very close grained, and does indeed take finishes well.
>
> Both varieties of oak can be successfully varnished - there’s no need for
> ridges etc to remain if normal sanding and coating is applied.   But red
> oak will rot quickly.  White oak may last centuries if it’s looked after.
>
> When varnished, white oak has a bright blonde colour… I’d say the only
> disadvantage it has is that it has a tendency to turn black if water gets
> through the varnish.
>
> Gordon Laco
> www.gordonlaco.com
>
> PS I’ve just discovered the on-line coverage of your club’s racing on
> youtube.  Saw you and your boat in a couple of the races. You certainly
> sail in heavy traffic sometimes!
>
>
>
> > On Nov 12, 2018, at 9:10 AM, jreadams6 via Public-List <
> public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
> >
> > I did what Mercelo did with the D shaped seal and also used caulking. It
> > still leaks enough to need some caulking maintenance this year - it leaks
> > in an area that got bashed in a jibe, so maybe not the seal's fault. Some
> > comments on the other posts:
> >
> > 1. Oak is much cheaper, but does not wear well at all and is hard to
> > maintain - it is a hard wood, with ridges that collect water, dirt and
> > ultimately mold. Many people when using Oak in furniture will fill the
> > ridges with a filler befor finishing it. I have seen boats that use oak
> and
> > it is not pretty over time. You could probably use a different wood that
> > would not be that much more expensive - mahogony comes to mind.
> >
> > 2. On leaving a gap with washers, this is interesting. On the  one hand
> it
> > keeps the area under the wood from getting wet and staying wet - which
> > makes it impossible for any varnish to stay on. However, then your butt
> > gets wet when you are sailing in weather. I know Wes did away with the
> > coaming, but he only ever sails in the Severn River. The Alberg is  wet
> > boat upwind in any kind of seaway and breeze. The water sprays up on the
> > windward side, and then rolls down the deck to the aft end of the coaming
> > and from there can make its way to the lee side. Along the way if it can,
> > it will try and get into the cockpit.
> >
> > My $0.02.
> >
> > Jonathan
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Nov 12, 2018 at 5:20 AM Jonathan Bresler via Public-List <
> > public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
> >
> >> Randy,
> >>
> >> Don't know which caulk to use between the coamings and the deck.
> >> With you, I am also looking forward to see what is recommended.
> >>
> >> Replacing the coamings with teak would be quite expensive.
> >> So its quite understandable to be looking at other materials.
> >> Wes Gardner installed "mini" coamings, just enough to fill the
> >> "shelf" in the fiberglass and mounted the winches directly to the
> >> side decks.  If you search the list archives, expect you will find
> >> his notes on this.
> >>
> >> You might want to consider oak coamings.  Oak is much cheaper
> >> than teak and if sealed well, may last quite a number of years.
> >>
> >> Thoughts?
> >>
> >> Jonathan
> >> Rather than Starboard, you might want to
> >>
> >> On Sun, Nov 11, 2018 at 7:45 PM Randy Katz via Public-List <
> >> public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Greetings, All,
> >>>
> >>> I finally got my ratty combing boards off the boat. It wasn’t that
> >>> difficult, but I found plugged screws in the outside quarter round (one
> >> at
> >>> each end, along the deck/combing joint) that went snuggly into the
> deck.
> >> I
> >>> wondered if this was the original installation.
> >>>
> >>> Many layers of chipped, worn Cetol have to go; I’m planning to clean
> and
> >>> oil the boards for an easier maintenance regime.
> >>>
> >>> I know that when I replace them I’ll need to caulk between the combing
> >> and
> >>> their fiberglass seats, on he outside of the cockpit. I read about
> butyl,
> >>> but it seems to degrade in UV. Polysulfide seems likely, a better
> choice,
> >>> but which brand/what type?
> >>>
> >>> I understand some have replaced the teak with plastic Starboard— any
> >>> comments about that idea?
> >>>
> >>> Many thanks, best Regards,
> >>>
> >>> Randy Katz
> >>> #259 Simple Gifts
> >>> Seattle/Bellingham
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