[Public-List] Public-List Digest, Vol 3743, Issue 1

Wed Oct 10 12:53:47 PDT 2018

Just two more thoughts, while at the mast I always raise the back end of the boom with my topping lift before pulling in the clew reefing line (but don’t forget to slack it afterwards) and I replaced my reefing hook with a snap shackle so the tack never slips off the hook just as I start to tension the halyard. Daniel Swords

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Today's Topics:

  1. Fw:  Standing Blocks for Genoa Track (John Brugeman)
  2. Refinishing the Deck (Jonathan Bresler)
  3. Re: Refinishing the Deck (Mike Lehman)
  4. Re: Refinishing the Deck (Wes Gardner)
  5. Re: Refinishing the Deck (Michael Devonshire)

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Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2018 14:05:07 +0000 (UTC)
From: John Brugeman <johnbrugeman at ameritech.net>
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Subject: [Public-List] Fw:  Standing Blocks for Genoa Track
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I have an old, used mainsail for an A30 with some repairs but certainly usable. We had a new main made about 5 years ago and the old one has been in my garage, high and dry ever since. If someone is in need it is available. Please contact at johnbrugeman at ameritech.net or cell 586-915-8569. Price is negotiable plus shipping.

    On Monday, October 8, 2018 1:34 PM, Jonathan Bresler via Public-List <public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:

 Lot of good material in this thread.

Thanks for the warning regarding a #16 winch making it too easy to over
tension the reefing line.
Your comments, as well as those of Daniel Swords and Marcelo Gentinetta,
have got me thinking
about moving the main halyard to the mast, in place of on the cabin top.
As was mentioned, have
to go to the mast to set the ring on the reef hook.? If I could lower the
main from the mast, set the ring,
set the clew reefing line, and rehoist from the same location, it would
make life a bit easier.

Danie and I have the same idea regarding the use of a soft shackle to with
a dinghy block or a low
friction ring, in my case, to place both parts of the reefing line on the
same side of the sail.? As he mentions,
it keeps me from crunching the bunt of the sail as its reefed.

Expecting stronger winds later in the week, so there should be an
opportunity to try this out.

Now your making me wonder. Can the outhaul, rigged as a pair of double
blocks, can be too much as well?

Jonathan

On Sun, Oct 7, 2018 at 12:21 PM, Gordon Laco <mainstay at csolve.net> wrote:

> I?d suggest your reefing system would work much better if you ended the
> reefing clew line on the boom near the gooseneck.? You have to be up there
> anyway to put the tack ring on the hook? so why not combine the operations?
>? The tack has to go on first, the the halyard tension is restored, the the
> clew is pulled down.
>
> Further, a #16 will put a terrible amount of tension on that reefing line
> very easily.? You?ll have to be quite careful not to overstrain the new
> foot of the main along the reef? The imagine that you?ve pulled down your
> reef? then you tack.? Because the geometry of the situation at the
> gooseneck changes, your reef will either slack off or tension up.? The
> later could easily tear the main if you?ve given that winch a 1/4 turn too
> much?
>
> Gordon Laco
> 426 Surprise
>
>
>
>
> On Oct 7, 2018, at 12:10 PM, Jonathan Bresler via Public-List <
> public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
>
> Thank you all for your thoughts and suggestions.
> Much appreciated.? Off to the boat show now to
> look, see, and decide.
>
> Related question regarding blocks.
> The main has two reefs.? Have a line rigged for the
> first reef.? Line runs from the boom up to the clew reef
> cringle, back down to the boom, forward to a single block
> hanging from the gooseneck, down a block attached near
> the base of the mast, and (finally!) back to the clutch on the
> cabin top in front of a Lewmar 16 winch.
>
> The tack has a ring that I place under the reefing hook on the
> gooseneck.
>
> Want to add a line and similar arrangement for the second reef.
>
> The question:? two single blocks at the gooseneck and the base of the mast
> or one double block at each location?
>
> Suggestions for a better way to run the reefing line?
>
> Seems to work well, used it most recently on Friday when the mast head
> was reading 15 to 18 knots.? The boat had pretty much the same speed
> with full main as with a single reef.? The single reefed condition was
> noticeably
> more pleasant.? Less heel, less pressure on the boat, overall more
> enjoyable.
>
> Jonathan
>
>
> On Fri, Oct 5, 2018 at 6:46 PM, Stephen Gwyn via Public-List <
> public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
>
>
> The sheaves in my blocks are looking worn.
> Standing blocks are tempting. In light air
> and slop they do flop around. And I use different
> jibs which have different sheeting positions so
> a bungy to the lifeline is a less attractive option.
>
> SG
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Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2018 11:33:33 -0400
From: Jonathan Bresler <262alberg30 at gmail.com>
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Subject: [Public-List] Refinishing the Deck
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Dear Albergers,

Started refinishing Constance in the Spring.  Did the entire cockpit.
Sanded, filled with SystemThree QuikFair, two base coats of Interlux
primer, followed by three coats of Brightside.  Redid the non-skid using
white KiwiGrip.

Happy with how the results are working out.  No so happy about how easily
the new finish shows dirt and grime.  What is in the air around Annapolis
that falls on the boat as some kind of black powder.  The Brightside cleans
up nicely.  The KiwiGrip is harder to get clean.

Heard of a new product this week called SoftSand Rubber.  They have a
number of "case studies" including a Cape Dory 30 and an Alberg 29?
http://www.softsandrubber.com/casestudies/

Anyone heard of or used this product?

Jonathan
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Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2018 13:13:54 -0400
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Subject: Re: [Public-List] Refinishing the Deck
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We are in the flight pattern for BWI airport...the black stuff is jet
exhaust. You're breathing it too! Try Z-cleaner from Bacon's,  it remove it
instantly and is harmless to the environment.

On Wed, Oct 10, 2018, 11:40 AM Jonathan Bresler via Public-List <
public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:

> Dear Albergers,
>
> Started refinishing Constance in the Spring.  Did the entire cockpit.
> Sanded, filled with SystemThree QuikFair, two base coats of Interlux
> primer, followed by three coats of Brightside.  Redid the non-skid using
> white KiwiGrip.
>
> Happy with how the results are working out.  No so happy about how easily
> the new finish shows dirt and grime.  What is in the air around Annapolis
> that falls on the boat as some kind of black powder.  The Brightside cleans
> up nicely.  The KiwiGrip is harder to get clean.
>
> Heard of a new product this week called SoftSand Rubber.  They have a
> number of "case studies" including a Cape Dory 30 and an Alberg 29?
> http://www.softsandrubber.com/casestudies/
>
> Anyone heard of or used this product?
>
> Jonathan
> --
> Jonathan M Bresler
> S/V Constance Alberg 30 #262
> Annapolis/Eastport MD
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Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2018 14:03:35 -0400
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Jet dirt...the result of jet noise, the sound of freedom :-)

On Wed, Oct 10, 2018 at 1:14 PM Mike Lehman via Public-List <
public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:

> We are in the flight pattern for BWI airport...the black stuff is jet
> exhaust. You're breathing it too! Try Z-cleaner from Bacon's,  it remove it
> instantly and is harmless to the environment.
>
> On Wed, Oct 10, 2018, 11:40 AM Jonathan Bresler via Public-List <
> public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
>
> > Dear Albergers,
> >
> > Started refinishing Constance in the Spring.  Did the entire cockpit.
> > Sanded, filled with SystemThree QuikFair, two base coats of Interlux
> > primer, followed by three coats of Brightside.  Redid the non-skid using
> > white KiwiGrip.
> >
> > Happy with how the results are working out.  No so happy about how easily
> > the new finish shows dirt and grime.  What is in the air around Annapolis
> > that falls on the boat as some kind of black powder.  The Brightside
> cleans
> > up nicely.  The KiwiGrip is harder to get clean.
> >
> > Heard of a new product this week called SoftSand Rubber.  They have a
> > number of "case studies" including a Cape Dory 30 and an Alberg 29?
> > http://www.softsandrubber.com/casestudies/
> >
> > Anyone heard of or used this product?
> >
> > Jonathan
> > --
> > Jonathan M Bresler
> > S/V Constance Alberg 30 #262
> > Annapolis/Eastport MD
> > _______________________________________________
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Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2018 18:05:37 +0000
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Wind through the sails is the sound of freedom!

Michael Devonshire
Director of Conservation
JHPA, Inc.
212-759-6462
212-759-6540 f
Direct: 646-666-9326

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Jet dirt...the result of jet noise, the sound of freedom :-)

On Wed, Oct 10, 2018 at 1:14 PM Mike Lehman via Public-List <
public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:

> We are in the flight pattern for BWI airport...the black stuff is jet
> exhaust. You're breathing it too! Try Z-cleaner from Bacon's,  it remove it
> instantly and is harmless to the environment.
>
> On Wed, Oct 10, 2018, 11:40 AM Jonathan Bresler via Public-List <
> public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
>
> > Dear Albergers,
> >
> > Started refinishing Constance in the Spring.  Did the entire cockpit.
> > Sanded, filled with SystemThree QuikFair, two base coats of Interlux
> > primer, followed by three coats of Brightside.  Redid the non-skid using
> > white KiwiGrip.
> >
> > Happy with how the results are working out.  No so happy about how easily
> > the new finish shows dirt and grime.  What is in the air around Annapolis
> > that falls on the boat as some kind of black powder.  The Brightside
> cleans
> > up nicely.  The KiwiGrip is harder to get clean.
> >
> > Heard of a new product this week called SoftSand Rubber.  They have a
> > number of "case studies" including a Cape Dory 30 and an Alberg 29?
> > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.softsandrubber.com_casestudies_&d=DwICAg&c=euGZstcaTDllvimEN8b7jXrwqOf-v5A_CdpgnVfiiMM&r=enM7ScFQvWrcekEYjndveTkrwasULNM_wPIJpHsl3qk&m=vaHNcvDXtX_UnLRH1JFIGgiE5ZI6dakwMht4IkBS0kw&s=9njs0so2q6oe0oCvX8MQeaCAyZmp4aRLfShfX1OPbnA&e=
> >
> > Anyone heard of or used this product?
> >
> > Jonathan
> > --
> > Jonathan M Bresler
> > S/V Constance Alberg 30 #262
> > Annapolis/Eastport MD
> > _______________________________________________
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