[Public-List] Public-List Digest, Vol 3743, Issue 1
Sheldon Shikoluk
shikshikoluk at gmail.com
Thu Oct 11 04:43:54 PDT 2018
looking to purchase a good condition 130 genoa for a RF if anyone has one
for sale?
Sheldon
Rainbow #481
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> 1. Fw: Standing Blocks for Genoa Track (John Brugeman)
> 2. Refinishing the Deck (Jonathan Bresler)
> 3. Re: Refinishing the Deck (Mike Lehman)
> 4. Re: Refinishing the Deck (Wes Gardner)
> 5. Re: Refinishing the Deck (Michael Devonshire)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2018 14:05:07 +0000 (UTC)
> From: John Brugeman <johnbrugeman at ameritech.net>
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> <public-list at lists.alberg30.org>, Gordon Laco <
> mainstay at csolve.net>
> Cc: Jonathan Bresler <262alberg30 at gmail.com>, Stephen Gwyn
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> Subject: [Public-List] Fw: Standing Blocks for Genoa Track
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> I have an old, used mainsail for an A30 with some repairs but certainly
> usable. We had a new main made about 5 years ago and the old one has been
> in my garage, high and dry ever since. If someone is in need it is
> available. Please contact at johnbrugeman at ameritech.net or cell
> 586-915-8569. Price is negotiable plus shipping.
>
>
>
> On Monday, October 8, 2018 1:34 PM, Jonathan Bresler via Public-List <
> public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
>
>
> Lot of good material in this thread.
>
> Thanks for the warning regarding a #16 winch making it too easy to over
> tension the reefing line.
> Your comments, as well as those of Daniel Swords and Marcelo Gentinetta,
> have got me thinking
> about moving the main halyard to the mast, in place of on the cabin top.
> As was mentioned, have
> to go to the mast to set the ring on the reef hook.? If I could lower the
> main from the mast, set the ring,
> set the clew reefing line, and rehoist from the same location, it would
> make life a bit easier.
>
> Danie and I have the same idea regarding the use of a soft shackle to with
> a dinghy block or a low
> friction ring, in my case, to place both parts of the reefing line on the
> same side of the sail.? As he mentions,
> it keeps me from crunching the bunt of the sail as its reefed.
>
> Expecting stronger winds later in the week, so there should be an
> opportunity to try this out.
>
> Now your making me wonder. Can the outhaul, rigged as a pair of double
> blocks, can be too much as well?
>
> Jonathan
>
> On Sun, Oct 7, 2018 at 12:21 PM, Gordon Laco <mainstay at csolve.net> wrote:
>
> > I?d suggest your reefing system would work much better if you ended the
> > reefing clew line on the boom near the gooseneck.? You have to be up
> there
> > anyway to put the tack ring on the hook? so why not combine the
> operations?
> >? The tack has to go on first, the the halyard tension is restored, the
> the
> > clew is pulled down.
> >
> > Further, a #16 will put a terrible amount of tension on that reefing line
> > very easily.? You?ll have to be quite careful not to overstrain the new
> > foot of the main along the reef? The imagine that you?ve pulled down your
> > reef? then you tack.? Because the geometry of the situation at the
> > gooseneck changes, your reef will either slack off or tension up.? The
> > later could easily tear the main if you?ve given that winch a 1/4 turn
> too
> > much?
> >
> > Gordon Laco
> > 426 Surprise
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Oct 7, 2018, at 12:10 PM, Jonathan Bresler via Public-List <
> > public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
> >
> > Thank you all for your thoughts and suggestions.
> > Much appreciated.? Off to the boat show now to
> > look, see, and decide.
> >
> > Related question regarding blocks.
> > The main has two reefs.? Have a line rigged for the
> > first reef.? Line runs from the boom up to the clew reef
> > cringle, back down to the boom, forward to a single block
> > hanging from the gooseneck, down a block attached near
> > the base of the mast, and (finally!) back to the clutch on the
> > cabin top in front of a Lewmar 16 winch.
> >
> > The tack has a ring that I place under the reefing hook on the
> > gooseneck.
> >
> > Want to add a line and similar arrangement for the second reef.
> >
> > The question:? two single blocks at the gooseneck and the base of the
> mast
> > or one double block at each location?
> >
> > Suggestions for a better way to run the reefing line?
> >
> > Seems to work well, used it most recently on Friday when the mast head
> > was reading 15 to 18 knots.? The boat had pretty much the same speed
> > with full main as with a single reef.? The single reefed condition was
> > noticeably
> > more pleasant.? Less heel, less pressure on the boat, overall more
> > enjoyable.
> >
> > Jonathan
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Oct 5, 2018 at 6:46 PM, Stephen Gwyn via Public-List <
> > public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
> >
> >
> > The sheaves in my blocks are looking worn.
> > Standing blocks are tempting. In light air
> > and slop they do flop around. And I use different
> > jibs which have different sheeting positions so
> > a bungy to the lifeline is a less attractive option.
> >
> > SG
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> > Jonathan M Bresler
> > S/V Constance Alberg 30 #262
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> Message: 2
> Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2018 11:33:33 -0400
> From: Jonathan Bresler <262alberg30 at gmail.com>
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> Subject: [Public-List] Refinishing the Deck
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> Dear Albergers,
>
> Started refinishing Constance in the Spring. Did the entire cockpit.
> Sanded, filled with SystemThree QuikFair, two base coats of Interlux
> primer, followed by three coats of Brightside. Redid the non-skid using
> white KiwiGrip.
>
> Happy with how the results are working out. No so happy about how easily
> the new finish shows dirt and grime. What is in the air around Annapolis
> that falls on the boat as some kind of black powder. The Brightside cleans
> up nicely. The KiwiGrip is harder to get clean.
>
> Heard of a new product this week called SoftSand Rubber. They have a
> number of "case studies" including a Cape Dory 30 and an Alberg 29?
> http://www.softsandrubber.com/casestudies/
>
> Anyone heard of or used this product?
>
> Jonathan
> --
> Jonathan M Bresler
> S/V Constance Alberg 30 #262
> Annapolis/Eastport MD
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>
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> Message: 3
> Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2018 13:13:54 -0400
> From: Mike Lehman <mlehman at gmail.com>
> To: A30 Public-List <public-list at lists.alberg30.org>
> Subject: Re: [Public-List] Refinishing the Deck
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> We are in the flight pattern for BWI airport...the black stuff is jet
> exhaust. You're breathing it too! Try Z-cleaner from Bacon's, it remove it
> instantly and is harmless to the environment.
>
> On Wed, Oct 10, 2018, 11:40 AM Jonathan Bresler via Public-List <
> public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
>
> > Dear Albergers,
> >
> > Started refinishing Constance in the Spring. Did the entire cockpit.
> > Sanded, filled with SystemThree QuikFair, two base coats of Interlux
> > primer, followed by three coats of Brightside. Redid the non-skid using
> > white KiwiGrip.
> >
> > Happy with how the results are working out. No so happy about how easily
> > the new finish shows dirt and grime. What is in the air around Annapolis
> > that falls on the boat as some kind of black powder. The Brightside
> cleans
> > up nicely. The KiwiGrip is harder to get clean.
> >
> > Heard of a new product this week called SoftSand Rubber. They have a
> > number of "case studies" including a Cape Dory 30 and an Alberg 29?
> > http://www.softsandrubber.com/casestudies/
> >
> > Anyone heard of or used this product?
> >
> > Jonathan
> > --
> > Jonathan M Bresler
> > S/V Constance Alberg 30 #262
> > Annapolis/Eastport MD
> > _______________________________________________
> > These businesses support your Association:
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> Message: 4
> Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2018 14:03:35 -0400
> From: Wes Gardner <wesgardner1952 at gmail.com>
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> Subject: Re: [Public-List] Refinishing the Deck
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> Jet dirt...the result of jet noise, the sound of freedom :-)
>
> On Wed, Oct 10, 2018 at 1:14 PM Mike Lehman via Public-List <
> public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
>
> > We are in the flight pattern for BWI airport...the black stuff is jet
> > exhaust. You're breathing it too! Try Z-cleaner from Bacon's, it remove
> it
> > instantly and is harmless to the environment.
> >
> > On Wed, Oct 10, 2018, 11:40 AM Jonathan Bresler via Public-List <
> > public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
> >
> > > Dear Albergers,
> > >
> > > Started refinishing Constance in the Spring. Did the entire cockpit.
> > > Sanded, filled with SystemThree QuikFair, two base coats of Interlux
> > > primer, followed by three coats of Brightside. Redid the non-skid
> using
> > > white KiwiGrip.
> > >
> > > Happy with how the results are working out. No so happy about how
> easily
> > > the new finish shows dirt and grime. What is in the air around
> Annapolis
> > > that falls on the boat as some kind of black powder. The Brightside
> > cleans
> > > up nicely. The KiwiGrip is harder to get clean.
> > >
> > > Heard of a new product this week called SoftSand Rubber. They have a
> > > number of "case studies" including a Cape Dory 30 and an Alberg 29?
> > > http://www.softsandrubber.com/casestudies/
> > >
> > > Anyone heard of or used this product?
> > >
> > > Jonathan
> > > --
> > > Jonathan M Bresler
> > > S/V Constance Alberg 30 #262
> > > Annapolis/Eastport MD
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > These businesses support your Association:
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> Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2018 18:05:37 +0000
> From: Michael Devonshire <Devonshire at jhpokorny.com>
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> Subject: Re: [Public-List] Refinishing the Deck
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> Wind through the sails is the sound of freedom!
>
> Michael Devonshire
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Public-List [mailto:public-list-bounces at lists.alberg30.org] On
> Behalf Of Wes Gardner via Public-List
> Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2018 2:04 PM
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> Cc: Wes Gardner
> Subject: Re: [Public-List] Refinishing the Deck
>
> Jet dirt...the result of jet noise, the sound of freedom :-)
>
> On Wed, Oct 10, 2018 at 1:14 PM Mike Lehman via Public-List <
> public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
>
> > We are in the flight pattern for BWI airport...the black stuff is jet
> > exhaust. You're breathing it too! Try Z-cleaner from Bacon's, it remove
> it
> > instantly and is harmless to the environment.
> >
> > On Wed, Oct 10, 2018, 11:40 AM Jonathan Bresler via Public-List <
> > public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
> >
> > > Dear Albergers,
> > >
> > > Started refinishing Constance in the Spring. Did the entire cockpit.
> > > Sanded, filled with SystemThree QuikFair, two base coats of Interlux
> > > primer, followed by three coats of Brightside. Redid the non-skid
> using
> > > white KiwiGrip.
> > >
> > > Happy with how the results are working out. No so happy about how
> easily
> > > the new finish shows dirt and grime. What is in the air around
> Annapolis
> > > that falls on the boat as some kind of black powder. The Brightside
> > cleans
> > > up nicely. The KiwiGrip is harder to get clean.
> > >
> > > Heard of a new product this week called SoftSand Rubber. They have a
> > > number of "case studies" including a Cape Dory 30 and an Alberg 29?
> > >
> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.softsandrubber.com_casestudies_&d=DwICAg&c=euGZstcaTDllvimEN8b7jXrwqOf-v5A_CdpgnVfiiMM&r=enM7ScFQvWrcekEYjndveTkrwasULNM_wPIJpHsl3qk&m=vaHNcvDXtX_UnLRH1JFIGgiE5ZI6dakwMht4IkBS0kw&s=9njs0so2q6oe0oCvX8MQeaCAyZmp4aRLfShfX1OPbnA&e=
> > >
> > > Anyone heard of or used this product?
> > >
> > > Jonathan
> > > --
> > > Jonathan M Bresler
> > > S/V Constance Alberg 30 #262
> > > Annapolis/Eastport MD
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