[Public-List] Public-List Digest, Vol 4054, Issue 1
Winslow Ayer
135sleddinghill at gmail.com
Tue Aug 11 13:19:12 PDT 2020
Maybe they screwed the track down last.
Winslow
> On Aug 11, 2020, at 4:00 PM, Richard Hansen via Public-List <public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
>
> True George. 2 screws per tab, but both tabs on one side must be removed
> to slide/lift to the other side. Not all offset screwdriver/wrench sets
> are small enough to fit under the hatch. Believe me, I bought a few with
> great hope. Finally found a cheap give away set from some industry
> conference that fit. RDH
>
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>> 1. Re: Companionway Hatch (George Dinwiddie)
>> 2. Re: Public-List Digest, Vol 4053, Issue 1 (Richard Hansen)
>> 3. Re: Companionway Hatch (Wes Gardner)
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>> Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2020 16:23:49 -0400
>> From: George Dinwiddie <gdinwiddie at alberg30.org>
>> To: public-list at lists.alberg30.org
>> Subject: Re: [Public-List] Companionway Hatch
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>> As I recall, on the newer boats at least, those tabs don't have to be
>> removed. I think when you loosen the screws (I used an offset
>> screwdriver), they swivel. I vaguely remember only having to do one side.
>>
>> - George
>>
>>> On 8/10/20 3:52 PM, Tom Dodds via Public-List wrote:
>>> Winslow, that was the first thing I tried, it appears to be blocked from
>> sliding off by the forward end of the hatch.
>>> I saw the four tabs that Jonathon mentions but they appear to be
>> inaccessible. I will take a closer look, perhaps I can fit a small offset
>> screwdriver in to remove them.
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>
>>>> On Aug 10, 2020, at 11:15 AM, Winslow Ayer <135sleddinghill at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> ?If you take off the 2 vertical pieces at the cockpit, the hatch should
>> slide off.
>>>>
>>>> Winslow
>>>>
>>>>> On Aug 10, 2020, at 9:15 AM, Jonathan Bresler via Public-List <
>> public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> ?You may be able to remove the hatch by pushing it fully to either
>> starboard
>>>>> or port and
>>>>> getting the metal pieces below to clear the slides.
>>>>>
>>>>> The companionway hatch on #262 (pre-liner) is held in place by four
>> pieces
>>>>> of metal
>>>>> screwed to the underside of the hatch near the forward and aft ends of
>> the
>>>>> two sides
>>>>> of the hatch. The pieces of metal are flush with the outside edges of
>> the
>>>>> hatch and stick
>>>>> out towards the centerline of the boat. The pieces are under the two
>>>>> slides (also metal)
>>>>> that are screwed to the cabin top and run fore and aft on either side
>> of
>>>>> the companionway.
>>>>>
>>>>> Jonathan
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sun, Aug 9, 2020 at 7:39 PM Tom Dodds via Public-List <
>>>>>> public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> My pre-liner boat?s sliding companionway hatch is in poor condition
>> and
>>>>>> requires significant repair or possibly replacement.
>>>>>> Unfortunately, I cannot see how to remove it from the boat. What am I
>>>>>> missing?
>>>>>> Also, has anyone ever fashioned a fibreglass replacement?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Tom Dodds
>>>>>> StageOne
>>
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>> Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2020 22:16:28 -0400
>> From: Richard Hansen <rdhansenjr at gmail.com>
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>> The reason you cannot just slide it off into the cockpit area is the
>> fiberglass spine or hump butts against the fore arch of the companion
>> way hatch. As you think about re-attaching, I'm open for any more
>> convenient way to do so. Trying to screw those 4 plates back on is a
>> pain. There must be a better way! Perhaps L shaped brackets??
>> RDH
>>
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>>> 1. Companionway Hatch (Tom Dodds)
>>> 2. Re: Companionway Hatch (Jonathan Bresler)
>>> 3. Re: Companionway Hatch (Christian Douglas)
>>> 4. Re: Companionway Hatch (Winslow Ayer)
>>> 5. Re: Companionway Hatch (Tom Dodds)
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>>> Message: 1
>>> Date: Sun, 9 Aug 2020 19:39:47 -0400
>>> From: Tom Dodds <tomdodds at sympatico.ca>
>>> To: public-list at lists.alberg30.org
>>> Subject: [Public-List] Companionway Hatch
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>>> My pre-liner boat?s sliding companionway hatch is in poor condition and
>>> requires significant repair or possibly replacement.
>>> Unfortunately, I cannot see how to remove it from the boat. What am I
>>> missing?
>>> Also, has anyone ever fashioned a fibreglass replacement?
>>>
>>> Tom Dodds
>>> StageOne
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPad
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>>> Message: 2
>>> Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2020 08:37:14 -0400
>>> From: Jonathan Bresler <262alberg30 at gmail.com>
>>> To: Alberg 30 Public List -- open to all
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>>> Cc: Tom Dodds <tomdodds at sympatico.ca>
>>> Subject: Re: [Public-List] Companionway Hatch
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>>> You may be able to remove the hatch by pushing it fully to either
>> starboard
>>> or port and
>>> getting the metal pieces below to clear the slides.
>>>
>>> The companionway hatch on #262 (pre-liner) is held in place by four
>> pieces
>>> of metal
>>> screwed to the underside of the hatch near the forward and aft ends of
>> the
>>> two sides
>>> of the hatch. The pieces of metal are flush with the outside edges of
>> the
>>> hatch and stick
>>> out towards the centerline of the boat. The pieces are under the two
>>> slides (also metal)
>>> that are screwed to the cabin top and run fore and aft on either side of
>>> the companionway.
>>>
>>> Jonathan
>>>
>>> On Sun, Aug 9, 2020 at 7:39 PM Tom Dodds via Public-List <
>>> public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>> My pre-liner boat?s sliding companionway hatch is in poor condition and
>>>> requires significant repair or possibly replacement.
>>>> Unfortunately, I cannot see how to remove it from the boat. What am I
>>>> missing?
>>>> Also, has anyone ever fashioned a fibreglass replacement?
>>>>
>>>> Tom Dodds
>>>> StageOne
>>>>
>>>> Sent from my iPad
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>>> S/V Constance Alberg 30 #262
>>> Annapolis/Eastport MD
>>>
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>>> Message: 3
>>> Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2020 10:25:12 -0400
>>> From: Christian Douglas <a30kittiwake at gmail.com>
>>> To: Alberg 30 Public List -- open to all
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>>> Subject: Re: [Public-List] Companionway Hatch
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>>> Wow! Thanks, Jonathan. Guess I should?ve asked. I was planning on taking
>>> off the two vertical trim pieces to slide it out aft.
>>>
>>> Christian
>>> Kittiwake #76
>>>
>>> On Mon, Aug 10, 2020 at 09:55 Jonathan Bresler via Public-List <
>>> public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>> You may be able to remove the hatch by pushing it fully to either
>>> starboard
>>>> or port and
>>>> getting the metal pieces below to clear the slides.
>>>>
>>>> The companionway hatch on #262 (pre-liner) is held in place by four
>>> pieces
>>>> of metal
>>>> screwed to the underside of the hatch near the forward and aft ends of
>>> the
>>>> two sides
>>>> of the hatch. The pieces of metal are flush with the outside edges of
>>> the
>>>> hatch and stick
>>>> out towards the centerline of the boat. The pieces are under the two
>>>> slides (also metal)
>>>> that are screwed to the cabin top and run fore and aft on either side
>> of
>>>> the companionway.
>>>>
>>>> Jonathan
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, Aug 9, 2020 at 7:39 PM Tom Dodds via Public-List <
>>>> public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> My pre-liner boat?s sliding companionway hatch is in poor condition
>> and
>>>>> requires significant repair or possibly replacement.
>>>>> Unfortunately, I cannot see how to remove it from the boat. What am I
>>>>> missing?
>>>>> Also, has anyone ever fashioned a fibreglass replacement?
>>>>>
>>>>> Tom Dodds
>>>>> StageOne
>>>>>
>>>>> Sent from my iPad
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>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Jonathan M Bresler
>>>> S/V Constance Alberg 30 #262
>>>> Annapolis/Eastport MD
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>>> Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2020 11:15:05 -0400
>>> From: Winslow Ayer <135sleddinghill at gmail.com>
>>> To: Alberg 30 Public List -- open to all
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>>> Cc: Jonathan Bresler <262alberg30 at gmail.com>, Tom Dodds
>>> <tomdodds at sympatico.ca>
>>> Subject: Re: [Public-List] Companionway Hatch
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>>> If you take off the 2 vertical pieces at the cockpit, the hatch should
>>> slide off.
>>>
>>> Winslow
>>>
>>>> On Aug 10, 2020, at 9:15 AM, Jonathan Bresler via Public-List <
>>> public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> ?You may be able to remove the hatch by pushing it fully to either
>>> starboard
>>>> or port and
>>>> getting the metal pieces below to clear the slides.
>>>>
>>>> The companionway hatch on #262 (pre-liner) is held in place by four
>>> pieces
>>>> of metal
>>>> screwed to the underside of the hatch near the forward and aft ends of
>>> the
>>>> two sides
>>>> of the hatch. The pieces of metal are flush with the outside edges of
>>> the
>>>> hatch and stick
>>>> out towards the centerline of the boat. The pieces are under the two
>>>> slides (also metal)
>>>> that are screwed to the cabin top and run fore and aft on either side
>> of
>>>> the companionway.
>>>>
>>>> Jonathan
>>>>
>>>>> On Sun, Aug 9, 2020 at 7:39 PM Tom Dodds via Public-List <
>>>>> public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> My pre-liner boat?s sliding companionway hatch is in poor condition
>> and
>>>>> requires significant repair or possibly replacement.
>>>>> Unfortunately, I cannot see how to remove it from the boat. What am I
>>>>> missing?
>>>>> Also, has anyone ever fashioned a fibreglass replacement?
>>>>>
>>>>> Tom Dodds
>>>>> StageOne
>>>>>
>>>>> Sent from my iPad
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>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Jonathan M Bresler
>>>> S/V Constance Alberg 30 #262
>>>> Annapolis/Eastport MD
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>>> Message: 5
>>> Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2020 15:52:24 -0400
>>> From: Tom Dodds <tomdodds at sympatico.ca>
>>> To: Winslow Ayer <135sleddinghill at gmail.com>
>>> Cc: Alberg 30 Public List -- open to all
>>> <public-list at lists.alberg30.org>, Jonathan Bresler
>>> <262alberg30 at gmail.com>
>>> Subject: Re: [Public-List] Companionway Hatch
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>>>
>>> Winslow, that was the first thing I tried, it appears to be blocked from
>>> sliding off by the forward end of the hatch.
>>> I saw the four tabs that Jonathon mentions but they appear to be
>>> inaccessible. I will take a closer look, perhaps I can fit a small offset
>>> screwdriver in to remove them.
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>
>>>> On Aug 10, 2020, at 11:15 AM, Winslow Ayer <135sleddinghill at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> ?If you take off the 2 vertical pieces at the cockpit, the hatch should
>>> slide off.
>>>>
>>>> Winslow
>>>>
>>>>> On Aug 10, 2020, at 9:15 AM, Jonathan Bresler via Public-List <
>>> public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> ?You may be able to remove the hatch by pushing it fully to either
>>> starboard
>>>>> or port and
>>>>> getting the metal pieces below to clear the slides.
>>>>>
>>>>> The companionway hatch on #262 (pre-liner) is held in place by four
>>> pieces
>>>>> of metal
>>>>> screwed to the underside of the hatch near the forward and aft ends of
>>> the
>>>>> two sides
>>>>> of the hatch. The pieces of metal are flush with the outside edges of
>>> the
>>>>> hatch and stick
>>>>> out towards the centerline of the boat. The pieces are under the two
>>>>> slides (also metal)
>>>>> that are screwed to the cabin top and run fore and aft on either side
>> of
>>>>> the companionway.
>>>>>
>>>>> Jonathan
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sun, Aug 9, 2020 at 7:39 PM Tom Dodds via Public-List <
>>>>>> public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> My pre-liner boat?s sliding companionway hatch is in poor condition
>> and
>>>>>> requires significant repair or possibly replacement.
>>>>>> Unfortunately, I cannot see how to remove it from the boat. What am I
>>>>>> missing?
>>>>>> Also, has anyone ever fashioned a fibreglass replacement?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Tom Dodds
>>>>>> StageOne
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sent from my iPad
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>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Jonathan M Bresler
>>>>> S/V Constance Alberg 30 #262
>>>>> Annapolis/Eastport MD
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>> Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2020 23:13:25 -0400
>> From: Wes Gardner <wesgardner1952 at gmail.com>
>> To: Alberg 30 Public List -- open to all
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>> Cc: Jonathan Bresler <262alberg30 at gmail.com>, Tom Dodds
>> <tomdodds at sympatico.ca>
>> Subject: Re: [Public-List] Companionway Hatch
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>> I too have those four bronze keepers that secure the hatch, I think the
>> fasteners on mine are #6 x 1/2?. My hatch, although you could step through
>> it, had held its shape- I used it as the core, I built three ribs across
>> the hatch, each one is about 3/4? x 1? (I had a really nice band saw at the
>> time so that kind of stuff is easy-peasy), these were epoxied to the top of
>> the hatch with nice fillets with thickened epoxy. Several layers of cloth
>> set in epoxy and the thing is bulletproof
>>
>> Sent from my iPad
>>
>>> On Aug 10, 2020, at 8:37 AM, Jonathan Bresler via Public-List <
>> public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
>>>
>>> You may be able to remove the hatch by pushing it fully to either
>> starboard
>>> or port and
>>> getting the metal pieces below to clear the slides.
>>>
>>> The companionway hatch on #262 (pre-liner) is held in place by four
>> pieces
>>> of metal
>>> screwed to the underside of the hatch near the forward and aft ends of
>> the
>>> two sides
>>> of the hatch. The pieces of metal are flush with the outside edges of
>> the
>>> hatch and stick
>>> out towards the centerline of the boat. The pieces are under the two
>>> slides (also metal)
>>> that are screwed to the cabin top and run fore and aft on either side of
>>> the companionway.
>>>
>>> Jonathan
>>>
>>> On Sun, Aug 9, 2020 at 7:39 PM Tom Dodds via Public-List <
>>> public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>> My pre-liner boat?s sliding companionway hatch is in poor condition and
>>>> requires significant repair or possibly replacement.
>>>> Unfortunately, I cannot see how to remove it from the boat. What am I
>>>> missing?
>>>> Also, has anyone ever fashioned a fibreglass replacement?
>>>>
>>>> Tom Dodds
>>>> StageOne
>>>>
>>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> These businesses support your Association:
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>>>> Please support them.
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>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Jonathan M Bresler
>>> S/V Constance Alberg 30 #262
>>> Annapolis/Eastport MD
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>> Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2020 10:12:26 -0400
>> From: Bill Keysar <bills.68alberg30 at gmail.com>
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>> How much $?
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