[Public-List] sail arch

Thu Jul 30 13:45:12 PDT 2020

>
> All great info - the solar on poles look quite clean and seem to work out
> well on Dolce.  I'd be interested in your pulpit solution as well, Marcel,
> do share the end result, I'd love to see it and hear how it's working out
> for you
>
> Message: 1
> Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2020 09:07:26 -0500
> From: "Marcelo D. Gentinetta" <vanguard64 at cox.net>
> To: Alberg 30 Public List -- open to all
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> Subject: Re: [Public-List] sail arch
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> Ryan,
> Congratulations on acquiring 555 !  I am in New Orleans and actually met
> George Copeland, the fellow that brought 555 down from N.C back in 2008. I
> purchased the boat he was selling at the time, a Pearson Ariel that was in
> a slip close to 555 which he showed off after an extensive refit. I think
> your boat?s name then was Atalanta.
> I sold the Ariel before purchasing my A30 in 2017.
> I am actually in the process of installing a 50w solar panel on the stern
> pulpit for keeping the batteries charged in the slip and a little extra
> when sailing. As was mentioned  by Jonathan, James Baldwin has great
> details on installing solar panels on tracking poles.
> Welcome!
> Marcelo Gentinetta
> #441  Alegria
>
> > On Jul 29, 2020, at 9:23 PM, Ryan via Public-List <
> public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
> >
> > Ryan,
> >
> > This pole-with-solar option was done on Dolce with two poles on the aft.
> > You can see a lot of videos of Dolce on her recent pacific voyages on the
> > youtube channel Routes of Change.
> >
> > On Wed, Jul 29, 2020 at 8:24 PM Jonathan Bresler via Public-List <
> > public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
> >
> >> Ryan,
> >>
> >> Another option for solar is a pole with a single panel centered on the
> top
> >> of the pole with a ball joint.
> >> The ball joint allows the panel to be angled to catch the most sun,
> letting
> >> you reposition (re-angle)
> >> the panel every couple hours.   You might mount a pole on each side aft.
> >> Lora, Jason Jernigan's boat,
> >> redone by James Baldwin (
> https://www.youtube.com/user/atomvoyager/videos)
> >> has this option.
> >>
> >> Look forward to hearing about how you and the boat are doing over time.
> >>
> >> Jonathan
> >>
> >> On Wed, Jul 29, 2020 at 9:04 PM Ryan Young <ryoung at spiderhop.net>
> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Thanks for the warm welcomes Jonathan and Gordon!  Gordon - I'd like to
> >>> throw a few rigid solar panels up, and thought an arch would be the
> best
> >>> way to accommodate so as they're out of the way.  I don't think it will
> >>> negatively affect the aesthetics, but I'm still a bit on the fence on
> >> that
> >>> claim.
> >>>
> >>> That looks like a good resource, Jonathan, I appreciate you pointing me
> >>> there.  I do indeed plan on staying in Seabrook (well, I'm technically
> >>> moving it to Kemah, TX - but only about 1.5 Kilometers away, as the
> crow
> >>> flies.  I likely will change the name in the near future and will let
> you
> >>> know if and when that happens, thanks again.
> >>>
> >>> -ry
> >>>
> >>> On Wed, Jul 29, 2020 at 7:23 PM Jonathan Bresler <
> 262alberg30 at gmail.com>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Ryan,
> >>>>
> >>>> Welcome aboard!
> >>>> Congratulations on getting #555.
> >>>>
> >>>> Janus is an Alberg 30 with an arch.
> >>>> Some information and photos at http://sailingseafari.blogspot.com/
> >>>>
> >>>> Will you be keeping the boat in Seabrook Texas?
> >>>> Do you plan on changing the name?
> >>>>
> >>>> Best wishes,
> >>>> Jonathan
> >>>>
> >>>> On Wed, Jul 29, 2020 at 8:07 PM Gordon Laco via Public-List <
> >>>> public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> Welcome aboard?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Why would you want to put an arch on an Alberg 30?
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Gordon Laco
> >>>>> www.gordonlaco.com
> >>>>> 426 Surprise
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> On Jul 29, 2020, at 6:40 PM, Ryan Young via Public-List <
> >>>>> public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> :) I should have mentioned I'm an excited new A30 owner!
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On Wed, Jul 29, 2020 at 5:21 PM Ryan <rnkiefer at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> By the way, I've sold my boat everyone! 555 now belongs to Ryan
> >> Young.
> >>>>>>> Thanks for all your help and advice!
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> On Wed, Jul 29, 2020 at 4:52 PM Ryan Young via Public-List <
> >>>>>>> public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Hello folks!
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> I was curious if anyone has gone down the route of installing a
> >>>>> stern sail
> >>>>>>>> arch?  I'm not sure of the narrowness has a big impact.  Do folks
> >> get
> >>>>>>>> these
> >>>>>>>> custom fabricated generally?  Does anyone have any resources for
> >>>>> kits?
> >>>>>>>> I'm
> >>>>>>>> hoping to mount a few rigid solar panels and I think this is the
> >> best
> >>>>>>>> route
> >>>>>>>> but open to what other folks have done.  Ideally I'd like to get
> >> 300
> >>>>> Watts
> >>>>>>>> total at the least.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> -ry
> >>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
> >>>>>>>> These businesses support your Association:
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> >>>>>>>> Please support them.
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> >>>>>>>> http://lists.alberg30.org/listinfo.cgi/public-list-alberg30.org
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>> -Ryan Kiefer
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>> _______________________________________________
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> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> --
> >>>> Jonathan M Bresler
> >>>> S/V Constance Alberg 30 #262
> >>>> Annapolis/Eastport MD
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Jonathan M Bresler
> >> S/V Constance Alberg 30 #262
> >> Annapolis/Eastport MD
> >> _______________________________________________
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> >
> >
> > --
> > -Ryan Kiefer
> > _______________________________________________
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>
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> Message: 2
> Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2020 11:04:48 -0400
> From: Jonathan Bresler <262alberg30 at gmail.com>
> To: Alberg 30 Public List -- open to all
>         <public-list at lists.alberg30.org>
> Subject: Re: [Public-List] sail arch
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> Marcelo,
>
> Please let us know how the install of th 50W panel on the stern pulpit
> goes.
> Have often allowed my mind to wander a bit on that very idea.
>
> Jonathan
>
> On Thu, Jul 30, 2020 at 10:10 AM Marcelo D. Gentinetta via Public-List <
> public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
>
> > Ryan,
> > Congratulations on acquiring 555 !  I am in New Orleans and actually met
> > George Copeland, the fellow that brought 555 down from N.C back in 2008.
> I
> > purchased the boat he was selling at the time, a Pearson Ariel that was
> in
> > a slip close to 555 which he showed off after an extensive refit. I think
> > your boat?s name then was Atalanta.
> > I sold the Ariel before purchasing my A30 in 2017.
> > I am actually in the process of installing a 50w solar panel on the stern
> > pulpit for keeping the batteries charged in the slip and a little extra
> > when sailing. As was mentioned  by Jonathan, James Baldwin has great
> > details on installing solar panels on tracking poles.
> > Welcome!
> > Marcelo Gentinetta
> > #441  Alegria
> >
> > > On Jul 29, 2020, at 9:23 PM, Ryan via Public-List <
> > public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
> > >
> > > Ryan,
> > >
> > > This pole-with-solar option was done on Dolce with two poles on the
> aft.
> > > You can see a lot of videos of Dolce on her recent pacific voyages on
> the
> > > youtube channel Routes of Change.
> > >
> > > On Wed, Jul 29, 2020 at 8:24 PM Jonathan Bresler via Public-List <
> > > public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
> > >
> > >> Ryan,
> > >>
> > >> Another option for solar is a pole with a single panel centered on the
> > top
> > >> of the pole with a ball joint.
> > >> The ball joint allows the panel to be angled to catch the most sun,
> > letting
> > >> you reposition (re-angle)
> > >> the panel every couple hours.   You might mount a pole on each side
> aft.
> > >> Lora, Jason Jernigan's boat,
> > >> redone by James Baldwin (
> > https://www.youtube.com/user/atomvoyager/videos)
> > >> has this option.
> > >>
> > >> Look forward to hearing about how you and the boat are doing over
> time.
> > >>
> > >> Jonathan
> > >>
> > >> On Wed, Jul 29, 2020 at 9:04 PM Ryan Young <ryoung at spiderhop.net>
> > wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> Thanks for the warm welcomes Jonathan and Gordon!  Gordon - I'd like
> to
> > >>> throw a few rigid solar panels up, and thought an arch would be the
> > best
> > >>> way to accommodate so as they're out of the way.  I don't think it
> will
> > >>> negatively affect the aesthetics, but I'm still a bit on the fence on
> > >> that
> > >>> claim.
> > >>>
> > >>> That looks like a good resource, Jonathan, I appreciate you pointing
> me
> > >>> there.  I do indeed plan on staying in Seabrook (well, I'm
> technically
> > >>> moving it to Kemah, TX - but only about 1.5 Kilometers away, as the
> > crow
> > >>> flies.  I likely will change the name in the near future and will let
> > you
> > >>> know if and when that happens, thanks again.
> > >>>
> > >>> -ry
> > >>>
> > >>> On Wed, Jul 29, 2020 at 7:23 PM Jonathan Bresler <
> > 262alberg30 at gmail.com>
> > >>> wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>>> Ryan,
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Welcome aboard!
> > >>>> Congratulations on getting #555.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Janus is an Alberg 30 with an arch.
> > >>>> Some information and photos at http://sailingseafari.blogspot.com/
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Will you be keeping the boat in Seabrook Texas?
> > >>>> Do you plan on changing the name?
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Best wishes,
> > >>>> Jonathan
> > >>>>
> > >>>> On Wed, Jul 29, 2020 at 8:07 PM Gordon Laco via Public-List <
> > >>>> public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
> > >>>>
> > >>>>> Welcome aboard?
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Why would you want to put an arch on an Alberg 30?
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Gordon Laco
> > >>>>> www.gordonlaco.com
> > >>>>> 426 Surprise
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>> On Jul 29, 2020, at 6:40 PM, Ryan Young via Public-List <
> > >>>>> public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> :) I should have mentioned I'm an excited new A30 owner!
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> On Wed, Jul 29, 2020 at 5:21 PM Ryan <rnkiefer at gmail.com> wrote:
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> By the way, I've sold my boat everyone! 555 now belongs to Ryan
> > >> Young.
> > >>>>>>> Thanks for all your help and advice!
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> On Wed, Jul 29, 2020 at 4:52 PM Ryan Young via Public-List <
> > >>>>>>> public-list at lists.alberg30.org> wrote:
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> Hello folks!
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> I was curious if anyone has gone down the route of installing a
> > >>>>> stern sail
> > >>>>>>>> arch?  I'm not sure of the narrowness has a big impact.  Do
> folks
> > >> get
> > >>>>>>>> these
> > >>>>>>>> custom fabricated generally?  Does anyone have any resources for
> > >>>>> kits?
> > >>>>>>>> I'm
> > >>>>>>>> hoping to mount a few rigid solar panels and I think this is the
> > >> best
> > >>>>>>>> route
> > >>>>>>>> but open to what other folks have done.  Ideally I'd like to get
> > >> 300
> > >>>>> Watts
> > >>>>>>>> total at the least.
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> -ry
> > >>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
> > >>>>>>>> These businesses support your Association:
> > >>>>>>>> http://www.alberg30.org/store/A30supporters.html
> > >>>>>>>> Please support them.
> > >>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
> > >>>>>>>> Public-List mailing list
> > >>>>>>>> Public-List at lists.alberg30.org
> > >>>>>>>> http://lists.alberg30.org/listinfo.cgi/public-list-alberg30.org
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> --
> > >>>>>>> -Ryan Kiefer
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>> _______________________________________________
> > >>>>>> These businesses support your Association:
> > >>>>>> http://www.alberg30.org/store/A30supporters.html
> > >>>>>> Please support them.
> > >>>>>> _______________________________________________
> > >>>>>> Public-List mailing list
> > >>>>>> Public-List at lists.alberg30.org
> > >>>>>> http://lists.alberg30.org/listinfo.cgi/public-list-alberg30.org
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> _______________________________________________
> > >>>>> These businesses support your Association:
> > >>>>> http://www.alberg30.org/store/A30supporters.html
> > >>>>> Please support them.
> > >>>>> _______________________________________________
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> > >>>>> http://lists.alberg30.org/listinfo.cgi/public-list-alberg30.org
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> --
> > >>>> Jonathan M Bresler
> > >>>> S/V Constance Alberg 30 #262
> > >>>> Annapolis/Eastport MD
> > >>>>
> > >>>
> > >>
> > >> --
> > >> Jonathan M Bresler
> > >> S/V Constance Alberg 30 #262
> > >> Annapolis/Eastport MD
> > >> _______________________________________________
> > >> These businesses support your Association:
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> > >> Please support them.
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> > >>
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > -Ryan Kiefer
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > These businesses support your Association:
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>
>
> --
> Jonathan M Bresler
> S/V Constance Alberg 30 #262
> Annapolis/Eastport MD
>
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> Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2020 15:23:54 -0400
> From: John Maliszewski <vzjrmalis at gmail.com>
> To: public-list at lists.alberg30.org, 262alberg30 at gmail.com
> Subject: [Public-List] Gooseneck track repair and replacement
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> Jonathan, you should be happy that this particular problem on your boat
> (#262) had been solved a long time ago. The piece of teak or whatever
> Whitby used as the track spacer had been replaced with a piece of naval
> brass machined to size. This peculiar Whitby construction formed a less
> expensive "T" and served its purpose for many years. In this case, after
> creating a brass spacer machined to size with clearance holes, I simply
> shifted the hole pattern by half of the pitch of the existing holes on the
> mast, and drilled and tapped a new set of mounting holes. The mast cross
> section thickness of the flat section of the mast is .167 inches and the
> inside flat measures 1.700 inches. ( I will ask George D. to publish a
> dimensioned cross section drawing of the mast on the A30 website.)
> Given 1/4 -20 thread screws that should give a full three
> treads engagement in the flat portion of the mast. Introducing a new backup
> plate is more trouble than it is worth.
> The original problem is that the wooden spacer deteriorates over time and
> allows the rail portion of the "T" to move and even perhaps become
> completely loose. Loose state of this engagement point reduces considerably
> the strength of the gooseneck assembly mounting, especially during the
> accidental jibes, and leads to broken screws or compromised treads in the
> mounting holes.
>
> John Maliszewski
>
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